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If it was a German-American Club or similiar or even a Euro-American Club, that would be fine and is indeed common. A Caucasian Club might be done as a spot of irony if you were promoting a color blind philosophy. But I notice nobody save for liberal whites buys into that (hence all the clubs). So Caucasian Club would be regarded as racist.
Of course Asian-American club is a big tent and its not like various Asian countries have much in common or even like each other. So that one is kind of absurd as well. Japanese-American club or similiar would be more appropriate.
African-American clubs are generally harmelss and understandable. Most blacks are not able to trace their lineage the way European descended folks can and its not like slaves were brought from nation states.
Yea I am rambling but that is what happens when you open the Pandora's box of racial and ethnic identities.
furthermore, Im not sure everyone realizes that these African American clubs directly stem from originally being denied membership to so many unlabeled Caucasian American clubs; including govt. offices. African Americans established their own clubs AFTER being excluded from the clubs of other ethnic groups. And while those clubs may not have been titled "the whites only club", any loon could see that they did not intend to include different ethnicities, as evident by their actions.
As these clubs existed and continued to develop different chapters, until the time that "traditional" clubs became open to members of varying ethnicities, the members of those "African American" clubs had already developed kinships and relationships within their respective clubs. Were they to dissolve the tradition that they had started after being barred from the "ethnically nuetral" clubs, simply because they were finally being allowed access?
Please note, that titles such as BET did not stem from African Americans excluding whites from their media channels but rather the media, which was at the time, largely controlled by whites excluding African Americans. Just food for thought.
This is why it is necessary that there is a black history month (well perhaps not an entire month. But young people should at least be made aware of the historical origins of our society and the components that have made it such.) and other ethnicly diverse holidays...because young people today, much like this lady's son may not be aware of the historical context for why conditions are the way they are in today's society...Its easy to approach these topics with no perspective nor context to its origin. But when framed in an accurate context, the picture tends to become much clearer to its audience.
[quote=solytaire;1700289]furthermore, Im not sure everyone realizes that these African American clubs directly stem from originally being denied membership to so many unlabeled Caucasian American clubs; including govt. offices. African Americans established their own clubs AFTER being excluded from the clubs of other ethnic groups. And while those clubs may not have been titled "the whites only club", any loon could see that they did not intend to include different ethnicities, as evident by their actions.
As these clubs existed and continued to develop different chapters, until the time that "traditional" clubs became open to members of varying ethnicities, the members of those "African American" clubs had already developed kinships and relationships within their respective clubs. Were they to dissolve the tradition that they had started after being barred from the "ethnically nuetral" clubs, simply because they were finally being allowed access?
Please note, that titles such as BET did not stem from African Americans excluding whites from their media channels but rather the media, which was at the time, largely controlled by whites excluding African Americans. Just food for thought.[/QUOTE
I disagree with you on the BET issue. BET has only been around for maybe 10 years. There was not a discrimination issue at that time. I would think If White Media had excluded African American people then we would have seen huge lawsuits and the ACLU come in. BET, Ebony magazine, Black music channels. These were created for black people. Not for all people. Just like the clubs. The clubs were created for Black, Mexican, etc. Of course they have to say that all people are included but that is not why they were originally created.
Ok I have to jump into the madness here. BET was created more than 20 years ago to showcase RnB and Hip Hop videos that were NOT getting any play on MTV or VH1. Hell, MTV would barely play Prince back in the 80s. And certainly, you don't need someone to explain to you why Ebony magazine was started back in 1945?
furthermore, Im not sure everyone realizes that these African American clubs directly stem from originally being denied membership to so many unlabeled Caucasian American clubs; including govt. offices. African Americans established their own clubs AFTER being excluded from the clubs of other ethnic groups. And while those clubs may not have been titled "the whites only club", any loon could see that they did not intend to include different ethnicities, as evident by their actions.
As these clubs existed and continued to develop different chapters, until the time that "traditional" clubs became open to members of varying ethnicities, the members of those "African American" clubs had already developed kinships and relationships within their respective clubs. Were they to dissolve the tradition that they had started after being barred from the "ethnically nuetral" clubs, simply because they were finally being allowed access?
Please note, that titles such as BET did not stem from African Americans excluding whites from their media channels but rather the media, which was at the time, largely controlled by whites excluding African Americans. Just food for thought.
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Originally Posted by ParkerP
Ok I have to jump into the madness here. BET was created more than 20 years ago to showcase RnB and Hip Hop videos that were NOT getting any play on MTV or VH1. Hell, MTV would barely play Prince back in the 80s. And certainly, you don't need someone to explain to you why Ebony magazine was started back in 1945?
I stand corrected. Thank you for correcting me
Tina
Causasians already have a club that caters to their every whim.
Its called the United States of America.
you have GOT to be joking! Us white Americans bend and cow-tow to every perceived minority group in this country! If we don't, we're branded racists!
Just look at the so called "Jena 6" or as I like to call them, juvenile delinquints. THEY started the fight by demanding to "take the white guys tree"; They made a great big production of it and unfortunately got the result that they wanted.
then SIX of them went and beat the hell out of the white guy. But, WE are racist and run the country, right? Not to mention Affirmative action, the NAACP, and on and on and on.
It's about time for all of the "oppressed" people in this country to consider trying PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY as a means of bettering themselves; There is WAY too much attitude of entitlement nowadays.
I say go ahead and start a Caucasian Club! Don't get too excited though, we'll be forced to integrate it soon enough.
While your at it do you think that I can get a million also?
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