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As to Hurricane Sandy, are you suggesting that no homes should ever be built along coastlines? That the Midtown Tunnel never should have been built because it flooded? Get a grip!
First of all that is not Detriot , that is LA...detriot has no LRT. Thats also the result of not exporting as much...we have an excess amount of containers sitting and rusting in the ports , so why not put them to go use. Its a clever idea , its not for everyone...
In reality the actual effects of Agenda 21 in the US over the last 22 years seem to have been almost zero.
Exactly, yet this does not deter chicken-litte-tards from tearing at their clothes and wailing to the skies over... nothing. It is fascinating to watch.
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I wonder if any of our leaners have ever heard of the White House Rural Council that Obama created not so long ago with one of his Executive Orders. Here is a list of those who will be on this thing and eventually tell farmers mostly in the center of the country how to live and work. I keep wondering what the Secretaries of Defense, State, HHS, and so many of these people should have to do with farmers and what they do.
Perfect example of you attempting to generate fear based on something you are clueless about. The executive orders establishing councils are fairly boilerplate, they include all sorts of people but leave it to a fear-mongering poster like you to waste your time worrying about it.
Who is included in the White House Council on Women and Girls?
(a) Membership of the Council. The Council shall consist of the following members:
(1) the Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Liaison, who shall serve as Chair of the Council;
(2) the Secretary of State;
(3) the Secretary of the Treasury;
(4) the Secretary of Defense;
(5) the Attorney General;
(6) the Secretary of the Interior;
(7) the Secretary of Agriculture;
(8) the Secretary of Commerce;
(9) the Secretary of Labor;
(10) the Secretary of Health and Human Services;
(11) the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development;
(12) the Secretary of Transportation;
(13) the Secretary of Energy;
(14) the Secretary of Education;
(15) the Secretary of Veterans Affairs;
(16) the Secretary of Homeland Security;
(17) the Representative of the United States of America to the United Nations;
(18) the United States Trade Representative;
(19) the Director of the Office of Management and Budget;
(20) the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency;
(21) the Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers;
(22) the Director of the Office of Personnel Management;
(23) the Administrator of the Small Business Administration;
(24) the Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council;
(25) the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy and Director of the National Economic Council; and
(26) the heads of such other executive branch departments, agencies, and offices as the President may, from time to time, designate.
OH MY GOD Roy why are they including the Sec Defense for the council of women and girls? It couldn't be some boilerplate order template, nah it is time to run screaming over the evil conspiracy, just like you have with the rural council.
Sec. 2. Establishment. (a) There is established, within the Executive Office of the President, the Gulf Coast Recovery and Rebuilding Council (the "Council"). The Assistant to the President for Economic Policy shall serve as the Chairman of the Council (the "Chairman"). The Council shall consist exclusively of the following members or full-time Federal officers or employees designated by them, respectively:
(i) Secretary of the Treasury;
(ii) Secretary of Defense;
(iii) Attorney General;
(iv) Secretary of the Interior;
(v) Secretary of Agriculture;
(vi) Secretary of Commerce;
(vii) Secretary of Labor;
(viii) Secretary of Health and Human Services;
(iv) Secretary of Housing and Urban Development;
(x) Secretary of Transportation;
(xi) Secretary of Energy;
(xii) Secretary of Education;
(xiii) Secretary of Veterans Affairs;
(xiv) Secretary of Homeland Security;
(xv) Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency;
(xvi) Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers;
(xvii) Administrator of the Small Business Administration;
(xviii) Director of the Office of Management and Budget;
(xix) Coordinator of Federal Support for the Recovery and Rebuilding of the Gulf Coast Region;
(xx) Assistant to the President for Economic Policy;
(xxi) Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy;
(xxii) Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism; and
(xxiii) Such other officers and employees of the executive branch as the Chairman may from time to time designate.
OH MY GOD! The SecDef is on that council that Bush created! Run! Stock up on canned goods, that obviously means something why would SecDef be on that council?
Etc. dozens of examples exec council crap is the same, you keep on fretting
No.... states and local govt can enact zoning and enact setbacks along coastal areas. Can you think without taking the extreme position on issues that you can't grasp?
OK for future building, but do what with existing property?
OH MY GOD! The SecDef is on that council that Bush created! Run! Stock up on canned goods, that obviously means something why would SecDef be on that council?
Why indeed. You tell us. Maybe as part of Homeland Security to keep the illegals out of our coastal areas?
Yes, I offered to allow people to learn about Agenda 21 from a Democrat who is an avowed lesbian. I don't think very many took the offer so I will try again. I know she spends a long time talking about Agenda 21 and what it is but so many know exactly nothing about what she talks about. Here is another opportunity to learn something about the scariest thing going on in the US these days.
It is generally grandfathered in to the new laws. It varies by state and muncipality.
Then what has been accomplished by new laws? There's virtually no new costal land available for new building. Existing homes, grandfathered in, don't solve the problem.
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The agenda 21 conspiracy is brought to you by the same people, who told you that they were certain that Mitt Rmoney would win the presidency.
Wrong. Agenda 21 is brought to you by the United Nations as a GLOBAL initiative looking toward one world government.
Read up on it, why don't you, so you look informed.
Then what has been accomplished by new laws? There's virtually no new costal land available for new building. Existing homes, grandfathered in, don't solve the problem.
Wrong. Agenda 21 is brought to you by the United Nations as a GLOBAL initiative looking toward one world government.
Read up on it, why don't you, so you look informed.
The conspiracy, not the actual agenda 21 initiative which is the sort of the thing the UN was created for, cooperation of nations. None of this stuff is binding. It is irrelevant.
Keep listening to the same voices that were certain that Mitt Rmoney would be president. That inflation would be like the Wiemar Republic or Argentina.
Keep listening to the same voices that you told that President Obama was going to take your guns.
These voices are con artists. They have been wrong repeatedly.
The conspiracy, not the actual agenda 21 initiative which is the sort of the thing the UN was created for, cooperation of nations. None of this stuff is binding. It is irrelevant.
It's binding as soon as your local government starts drawing up maps, making zoning laws, drafting and voting on new regulations to enforce specific restrictions and changes to fall in line with State and Federal goals according to the UN agreement signed by the U.S.
It has started in your own back yard. Check out your state and city/town listing on the links provided.
If you think it's 'irrelevant', you'll soon have a rude awakening. You WILL be paying for something that you say is "irrelevant". Open up your wallet. The government loves people like you.
Then what has been accomplished by new laws? There's virtually no new costal land available for new building.
You don't have much experience with development do you? Development is constantly happening throughout the country... people are buying properties, remodeling them, or tearing them down. These laws would affect those looking to remodel or tear them down as they would have to comply with new rules.
And there's still coast line left in America for development, not sure why you'd say that.
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Existing homes, grandfathered in, don't solve the problem.
Not immediately... Not a big picture kind of person are you?
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