Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 12-17-2012, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Earth
4,505 posts, read 6,485,232 times
Reputation: 4962

Advertisements

To the OP's OQ:

No law abiding citizen would ever VOTE for anyone who violates the Constitution!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-17-2012, 06:34 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
6,464 posts, read 13,445,053 times
Reputation: 3581
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy View Post
I tried very hard, but I can't think of any reason why a law abiding citizen would want to own an assault weapon.
Uh.... I really need my car to get to work? And to take the occasional vacation to LA or SF?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago
38,707 posts, read 103,224,262 times
Reputation: 29983
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy View Post
I tried very hard, but I can't think of any reason why a law abiding citizen would want to own an assault weapon. If your true motive for owning a gun is to protect yourself, why isn't a normal gun good enough? What's next, your own miniature nuclear bomb under the guise of "Second Amendment rights"? Where does it stop?
The law-abiding don't owe you an explanation for anything.

/thread
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
52,697 posts, read 34,579,481 times
Reputation: 29290
Quote:
Originally Posted by darstar View Post
It is also obvious that you are a total jerk by your thoughtless remarks to someone who sounds smart enough to put aside your hateful remarks and propose a simple question and thought. Sorry, I may not be all that smart, but the day has come and gone when saneness prevails. To much, things have to change. Now you, go back to your basement and play over and over your killing machine videos, I guess that how you must get your jollies.
awesome. insanity, here we come.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
8,733 posts, read 15,945,731 times
Reputation: 2869
Quote:
Originally Posted by DentalFloss View Post
I don't know how you interpreted my comment, but I don't think it was in the manner in which I had intended.

What I mean is no matter how matter firearms I own, I'm not going to kill someone unless I am justified, both legally and ethically. I could come over to your house to watch the game, strapped with an M60 and 1,000 rounds of ammo and you have nothing to fear.

I'll concede that would be strange, and I'm not about to show up at your house with an M60, but it's an intentionally absurd statement meant to illustrate a point.
Ok, it was that part of your last words when you said" anyone else". I took that to mean you were speeking for other " special people" for the lack of a better word. I do get paranoid with the NRA around. This reverts back a lot of years in the Fifties, when they were trying to organize every one in my small Midwest town. I saw through their "safety" propaganda as a way to get people to join. That caused a divide in our town, over 55 years ago... Those who were for and those against. Not far from what's going on now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2012, 06:55 PM
 
1,684 posts, read 1,186,121 times
Reputation: 349
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaybb View Post
I second that......no reason for any citizen to own an assault weapon.
PS--I do not know anyone who would come over to someones home with 1000 rounds of ammo...but if they did, time to call the police--clearly they are not all there.
Clearly the Police called THEM first!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2012, 06:56 PM
 
1,684 posts, read 1,186,121 times
Reputation: 349
What do you have today Vic?

"Sounds of grunts and nearly having an orgasm"


Saiga 12 Shotgun, MD-20 Drum: Pallet Destruction - YouTube
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Midwest
38,496 posts, read 25,830,486 times
Reputation: 10789
Quote:
Originally Posted by DentalFloss View Post
For those in favor of banning so-called "assault rifles", I give you this. As you can clearly see, knives are responsible for more deaths than that which you seek to ban. Does that seem reasonable?


What happened in 1994 that made the homicide rate by guns plummet on your graph?

Clue: Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act


Your graph proves increased gun controls work! Thank you for showing that to us.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2012, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
11,142 posts, read 10,716,540 times
Reputation: 9799
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Your falling back on the federal definition of assault rifles, as far as I'm concerned the Bushmaster used in the killings is an assault rifle, these weapons are used to kill multiple people in a short period of time. Pistols or rifles, 10 round magazine or 30 doesn't make a difference, they can still kill very rapidly. I understand that covers many guns out there today but everything needs to be looked at in terms of regulation.

So what if the shooters gun didn't jam at Columnbine, what would be the outcome, can you think of any good reason why a law abiding citizen should have a semi-automatic with 30 rounds?
Please try to keep your massacres straight. The gun jammed at Aurora, not Columbine. None of the weapons at Columbine had high-capacity magazines.

In answer to this question:

Quote:
can you think of any good reason why a law abiding citizen should have a semi-automatic with 30 rounds?
Quite simple really, law abiding citizens should have these weapons because a) there is nothing illegal about them and b) the citizens that aren't law abiding have them and will continue to have them long after any ban is put into effect, and when push comes to shove most of us would prefer that the proverbial playing field be at least somewhat level.


I'll put it in very simple terms.

When 9/11 happened, we didn't blame the airplanes. We blamed the hijackers (some blamed the government, but most of us who still have our sanity and common sense blamed the actual perpetrators).

When Pearl Harbor happened, we didn't blame the boats and planes that were used, we blamed the Japanese military and government.

When Oklahoma City happened, we didn't blame truck rental companies, fertilizer manufacturers, or gas station attendants. We blamed Timothy McVeigh, who perpetrated the crime.

I'm not sure at what point in history people decided to start blaming the tools that were used to commit the atrocities rather than the nutjobs who actually committed the crimes, but I am sure that removing the tools won't stop the violence. Humans have been killing other humans since time began, and they managed to do it perfectly well long before firearms were widely available. I'll repeat it again, since it's a point that seems to be eluding you and many others: removing firearms will not stop violence.

As I've said over and over, if you want to address the true cause of violence in this country, rather than jumping on the "we have to do something now to make us feel like we did something" bandwagon, you'll push for societal change in the way that we treat the mentally ill as well as the way that we raise our children.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Midwest
38,496 posts, read 25,830,486 times
Reputation: 10789
Quote:
Originally Posted by victorianpunk View Post
I want an assault rifle because I may one day have to break the law...

When the Capitalists decide I have to go to a "camp" for the color of my skin or our furher Obama institutes martial law, I may need to do something about it. We need to have an armed populace, because that is the best defense against tyranny and is necessary for revolution.

When working class people are armed and dangerous, it will make the Pigs in power hesitate before cracking down on us. If I we the working class have to break to law to achieve freedom, than so be it. What part of "by any means necessary" don't you understand?

Delusional and paranoid people should not be allowed to own guns. Remember, it is the person, not the gun.............
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:46 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top