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I would be all in favor of giving all my misnamed civilianinzed lookalike assault rifles, as long as i can have with no goverment control as many real assault rifles as i can afford.
Add that these statistics do not differentiate between murders commited with legal guns and illegal ones.
All you so rabidly in favor of Americans giving up their guns are only effectively meaning the legal ones.
Does this make a difference to friends and family of the murder victim?
The ownership and use of firearms is regulated by the Firearms Act of 1998. Firearms can only be obtained with an acquisition license, which can be applied for at the local police for a fee. A separate license is required for each individual firearm. The number of firearms a person can own is not limited in any way. With the primary licensee's consent, parallel licenses to his firearms can be granted to other persons. According to law, the firearms must be stored in a locked space or otherwise locked, or with vital parts removed and separated. Even then the weapon or any of its separated parts must not be easily stolen. If more than 5 pistols, revolvers or self-loading rifles or other-type firearms are being stored, they must be stored in a certified gun safe or in a secure space inspected and approved by the local police authority.
They may be carried only when they are transported from their place of storage to the place of use (shooting range, hunting area or such). Even then they must be unloaded and concealed or kept in carrying pouches. Aside from law enforcement agents and military personnel, only security guards with closely defined working conditions, special training and a permit are allowed to carry a loaded gun in public places. The ownership of air-rifles is not regulated but carrying or firing them in public places is not permitted. A crossbow is paralleled to an air rifle in legal matters. To obtain a firearms license, an individual must declare a valid reason to own a gun (self defense is not considered "valid"). Acceptable reasons include hunting, sports or hobby shooting, profession related, show or promotion or exhibition, collection or museum, souvenir, and signalling. The applicant must provide evidence supporting the acquisition license application to prove that he or she is actually using firearms for the stated purpose(s). Such proof may consist of written declarations from other license holders as referees, shooting diaries or certificates from a shooting club.[6] The applicant is also subjected to an extensive background check from police accessible databases and even citations for speeding or drunk driving can be grounds of not granting the license.
Collectors can have special licenses for firearms otherwise not permitted (e.g. pocket guns or automatic rifles). These are usually issued based on the collector's previous record of gun ownership, but ultimately the issuing of licenses is at the local police's discretion.
Conversely, a license for a pistol or a rifle is relatively easy to obtain, although the police usually require that the first gun is suitable for a beginner (usually a gun chambered in .22LR or single shot shotgun).
Possession of destructive devices such as automatic weapons, Explosive Ordnance, breech loading cannons, artillery or missile systems is generally not permitted. The Finnish Ministry of the Interior has discretion to license such devices to collectors, for motion picture production or exhibition use. The firearms certificate may be cancelled if a person has committed any crimes (in addition to violent crimes, simple theft and traffic offences are also considered) or has broken certificate rules. Physical and mental problems or reckless behavior are solid grounds for cancelling the certificate. Possessing a firearm without a license is a punishable offence. Unlicensed firearms may be confiscated by the police without punishment under a gun amnesty law, provided this happens under the individual's own initiative. Firearms surrendered in this manner are auctioned to the public or destroyed.
You're right. That is brilliant.
Hello? Victorianpunk?...Where are you? No response? Did you eat your foot? One more thing...are you still advocating the US gun laws be just like Finland?
A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Hello? Victorianpunk?...Where are you? No response? Did you eat your foot? One more thing...are you still advocating the US gun laws be just like Finland?
I have forwarded your attacking PM's to the mods hopefully we won't be seeing much more of your inane posts......
The US does have a distinct violence problem amond industrialized nations.
Furthermore, the 2nd amendment doesn't guarantee the right to bear ALL KINDS of arms, and this has been supported by the supreme court. For example, it is constitutional for the government to prevent citizens from owning RPGs, rocket-propelled grenades. That is an arm that Americans DON'T have the right to bear. So the question becomes where does the dividing line get drawn, realizing that the dividing line is based on current society and technology (there were no RPGs in 1776). To me personally, assault rifles like the one used in the school massacre should be on the RPG side of the dividing line- no right to bear, ie. BAN THEM. Regular rifles and shotguns and handguns are sufficient arms for common citizens. They are sufficient to hunt and to protect one's home against intruders.
Such a ban won't make America less violent like the other industrialized nations, that problem is a bigger one, nonetheless it makes sense TO ban them, and the school massacre clearly shows why. You don't need an assault rifle to protect your home any more than you need an RPG to protect your home.
A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
And a little more RECENT gun history...
Connecticut gun rampage: 28 dead, including 20 schoolchildren
All those examples are a half a century or more older annnnd they are wars and internal conflicts. Not normal everyday occurences...as these shootings are here!
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