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Old 08-05-2019, 09:45 AM
 
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Yah, they're not industrialized nations and your stats are WRONG! You have no source! AND you have only the homicide rate not murder rate with guns! Total BUll! Here's the real rate (you know there is this thing called google):

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/...d-States/Crime

The USA has 14 TIMES as much gun violence as Spain. .0245 per 100,000 vs. 3.6 per 100,000 for the USA. Keep drinking the NRA kool-aid dude. Look it up on a real site not some NRA made up bull site.

So , is it just gun violence you are concerned with , or violence in general ? Other countries have the same issues, just with a different tool. That being said, yes , our country does seem to have a propensity for violence. That in itself should be the main concern. Why ? Why is our society getting more violent after years of seeing a decline ? And why a certain demographic (mass shooters) ?

 
Old 08-05-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Guns- “We are the only industrialized country that has this problem. In the whole world, the only one.” (Israel, Canada)
Trump blames video-games but does not realize people play the same games all over the world, but dont have this problem.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I hate to say this but as a black man what I'm concerned about is this, if you take out the black on black crime where does American stand with gun deaths? I have no answer when presented this question. I know my people in poor areas need to change. I'm not bashing blacks. But if you present the data that way then America doesn't even compare. I know we are ALL Americans so when you look at data you have to include everyone. I bet if you only look at gun deaths from people with a certain income or two parent homes it would change drastically. That leads me to believe that it's not a black problem but a poor broken home problem.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 10:15 AM
 
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I hate to say this but as a black man what I'm concerned about is this, if you take out the black on black crime where does American stand with gun deaths? I have no answer when presented this question. I know my people in poor areas need to change. I'm not bashing blacks. But if you present the data that way then America doesn't even compare. I know we are ALL Americans so when you look at data you have to include everyone. I bet if you only look at gun deaths from people with a certain income or two parent homes it would change drastically. That leads me to believe that it's not a black problem but a poor broken home problem.

Awesome, logic and common sense , finally !


I think you can even take the "poor" out of that and just leave it at broken home. That is where the issues are, whether in the inner city, or the hills of the south. Kids are being brought up in the street, where one has to be tough to survive and violence is the only way to prove it. This is an entirely different situation though than the mass shooters, although I do think much of it has to do with their home life.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 11:03 AM
 
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Trump blames video-games but does not realize people play the same games all over the world, but dont have this problem.
One word, Japan. Makers of all our video games had 12 gun homicides... IN A YEAR! We go through that in a shopping trip to Walmart.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 11:08 AM
 
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One word, Japan. Makers of all our video games had 12 gun homicides... IN A YEAR! We go through that in a shopping trip to Walmart.

Japan, a purely homogenous somewhat racist country... Absolutely zero comparison to the U.S.


And when they have issues, instead of lashing out and killing others, they just kill themselves.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/05/healt...ntl/index.html
 
Old 08-05-2019, 11:12 AM
 
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Japan, a purely homogenous somewhat racist country... Absolutely zero comparison to the U.S.
Right. 12 homicides certainly does not compare to our sky-high numbers.

We have that many every other hour.
 
Old 08-05-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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We’re the only developed country where it isn’t surprising..
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