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You don't abandon your religion when you start a business. Religious beliefs don't stop during working hours. As I said, you have no clue about what you speak.
I don't think you know the meaning of Freedom of Religion. It doesn't give you the right to violate secular laws, just because your religion dictates it. By your logic, Satanists should be able to sacrifice children because it's part of their religious beliefs, and our laws making murder illegal are a violation of their Freedom of Religion.
Businesses have always had the right to refuse service to anyone, for any reason.
If you don't wear shoes and walk into a restaurant, they have the right to refuse service.
If serving someone goes against their fundamental beliefs, then by all means refuse away. If they go bankrupt because of their beliefs, then sobeit. If not, that's fine too.
False, businesses can not legally deny service to protected classes. There are some things they can refuse, but they can't refuse absolutely anyone for any reason. Businesses must abide by state and federal law.
They aren't religious, do not understand the concept, believe it a fairytale. Therefore, religion means nothing to them. They are blind my friend.
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And FYI, Jewish law doesn't forbid same-sex marriage. Orthodox rules do, but most Jews are not Orthodox. Reform, Reconstructionist, and many Conservative Congregations perform same-sex marriages.
Last edited by Ibginnie; 01-03-2013 at 03:27 PM..
Reason: discuss the topic, not other posters
That BS!!! You can enter a gay union, and enjoy all the benefits of marriage.
Procreation = Marriage
Non-Procreation = Union
Marriage is a sacred thing to religious people. You'll find that most divorces are by couples who are not religious, and predominantly unfaithful. Divorce rates among religion-minded people are quite low.
I was preempting your argument, because I know where you'll go. Like a broken record.
And you've officially proven you haven't the foggiest clue what you're talking about. The highest divorce rates in the country are in the Bible Belt. Devout religious people have the highest rates of divorce, teen pregnancy, pornography viewing, and obesity.
Marriage is a religious thing to some people, but it's not an exclusively religious concept. The Church had no involvement in marriage for most of its 2000 year history; it followed Roman secular marriage rules.
I love how people have such strong ties to their faith. I really and truly do. What bothers me is when those people don't realize that others have the same strong ties, and rather than letting people live by the rules of whatever belief they hold, must instead take the faith that they love so much and desecrate it by trying to force it upon others.
I seem to recall a phrase starting with "Do unto others." Seems like many have forgotten how it ends.
If someone wants to get into a gay marriage it has NOTHING to do with you. Leave them to live their lives in peace. If you believe it to be a sin, fine, but that's between them and God, and has nothing to do with you. Judge not, that you be not judged.
1. Willful murder.
2. The sin of Sodom.
3. Oppressing the poor.
4. Defrauding working men of their just wages.
All of these are sadly prevalent in the United States, but only one of these is threatening to become institutionalized today: the sin of Sodom, in the form of same-sex "marriage".
Same-sex "marriage" is not a mere trifle. If institutionalized it will turn our civilization inside-out. Although abortion (i.e., "willful murder") is arguably a greater evil, most citizens can at least avoid complicity. Not so with same-sex "marriage". Everyone from county clerks to school teachers, from insurance salesmen to commercial printers, from caterers to photographers, from journalists to secretaries, from social workers to health care professionals, etc. etc. ad infinitum, will be forced - on pain of legal sanctions, loss of employment, or social marginalization - to confess that unmarried people are married, that lies are truth, that unreality is reality; and to cooperate with and facilitate the whole damnable charade. This is the textbook definition of tyranny. Men and women of conscience, who refuse to lie or pretend for anyone, will eventually be deprived of their livelihoods.
"How Same-Sex 'Marriage' Suffocates Freedom" by Bryce Christensen outlines the process:
"For those trying to enshrine the notion of same-sex 'marriage' in law are not primarily trying to enlarge the freedom of homosexuals; they are primarily striving to diminish the freedom of skeptics who would deny that the union of homosexuals is—or can ever be—a legitimate marriage. The aim of those trying to inscribe the novelty of homosexual marriage in law is actually that of making an outlaw out of anyone who would question the moral substance of this new social construct and the sexual behaviors it legitimates."
Do you love your country? If you do, you will do everything in your power to oppose the insidious totalitarian trojan horse (no pun intended) of same-sex "marriage". And by that I mean insisting that government acknowledge the metaphysical reality of marriage as it actually exists - the union of one man and one woman established for the procreation of children, the mutual help of spouses, and the prevention of concupiscence.
because after religious people don't help in their forbidden "Wedding" religious people get sued by gay terrorists.
No they don't. Not by all homosexual couples, if any at all. If in fact they are, then that's a label of stupidity of the homosexual couple for going to a private institution that doesn't recognize same sex marriage.
Again why do you always bring up "terrorists" when they have nothing to do with Homosexual Americans?
its not. never was. what is a threat is the 67% failure rate of marraige 79% second go around.
marriage and family is in trouble. dont blame it on the gays. own your own stuff.
women and men need to own their responsibility for bulging prison population high marriage failure and lousy work and school performance. gays did none of this.
in New York lesbian terrorists sued a religious couple for refusing to rent out their farm for their fake wedding.
I have every right under the first amendment not to sell to things to people that violate my religion. Thus I forbidden sell a gun to someone who I think may use it to murder someone just like I can't sell a ring to someone who will use it in a fake wedding. But If I exercise my first amendment right in the later case gay terrorists will attack me based on their antisemitic gay "rights" laws.
So now secular laws are Antisemitic? How does that make sense? I think you're teetering on the edge of paranoia.
Homosexual Americans are Americans just like you and I - they deserve and will be treated as EQUALS in this country and be given all the LIBERTIES, RIGHTS, and FREEDOMS you and I enjoy. End of discussion.
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