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no Orthodox Jew can sell a wedding ring for a "wedding" between to members of the same sex. they want to kick Orthodox Jews out of the diamond industry or force them to violate their religion.
If they're a public accommodation, they have to do business with the public. Discrimination is illegal.
If that means that Orthodox Jew's have to go out of business, so be it. Shove your discrimination where the sun doesn't shine.
because no Orthodox Jews is able to help a gay wedding take place in anyway including renting a hall or selling a ring. THis law thus Forces all Orthodox Jews out of those business. Thus what the law is really saying is only non religious people are allowed to own businesses that are involved at any lever with marriage. This is clearly a anti Semitic law.
How exactly does two people who want to get married have anything at all to do with you, whether they're gay or straight?
I'm not allowed to help a sin take place. gay marriage is a a sin. If I have a wedding hall I am thus forbidden to rent it for a gay "wedding". but gay bigots use gay "rights" laws to force me to violate my Judaism or close down my livelihood.
You define your religion by the actions of those with whom you conduct commerce?
the same Jewish law that prevents me from selling a gun to a someone I believe may use it to murder someone (even if American law says I'm allowed to sell it to him) is the same Jewish law that prevents me from selling a wedding ring for a ---- "wedding".
If that makes me an anti-semite, so be it. But if you think you have the right to discriminate, you are wrong. And if that causes you to reassess your ridiculous, discriminatory belief system, even better.
That...has nothing to do with my post whatsoever. Why are you bringing up something completely irrelevant to this topic?
He brings up that subject in EVERY gay-related debate, since he once way back when got somebody to admit that was "wrong." Not that it has anything to do with modern US laws or common decency whatsoever, it's just the only thin straw he has to hang on to - and I still don't understand the point, or why that was such a "gotcha" moment for him. But apparently it made him very proud, since he hasn't shut up about it ever since! True sign of somebody who's losing the fight, when they use the same argument over & over & over again (even when it's irrelevant).
I am married too, and we were both 'fixed' before we met, each coming out of other bad marriage, but we 'practice'.
When did he say anything about "practicing" or not? You said marriage is all about procreation, and he said not for him - since his wife cannot have children, no matter how much they practice. You are in the same boat, so how can you possibly say marriage is all about making babies?
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I don't buy the male to male or female to female bit at all...
Just don't. We don't get anal either..... ewwwwwwwww
What do you mean "I don't buy (it)?" Are you saying they don't actually have sex with each other, and have just been faking us out since the beginning of time? That makes no sense whatsoever, and still has zero to do with your original point about marriage = procreation.
And just because you don't "get" something, that is no reason to deny them equal rights to you. I don't get lots of things, like the orgasms people get out of shooting guns - but I still support their/your right to own one, if that gets your blood flowing. FYI, waaaaaaay more heterosexuals than homosexuals practice anal sex.
no Orthodox Jew can sell a wedding ring for a "wedding" between to members of the same sex. they want to kick Orthodox Jews out of the diamond industry or force them to violate their religion.
But they're happy to sell diamonds to all the other sinners? Why isn't that also a violation of their religion?
I don't know the Jewish (orthodox or not) religious texts ... but I am seriously interested ... can you point us to the wording of what makes selling a diamond to a same-sex couple, specifically, a violation of their religion?
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