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Old 01-03-2013, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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When did he say anything about "practicing" or not? You said marriage is all about procreation, and he said not for him - since his wife cannot have children, no matter how much they practice. You are in the same boat, so how can you possibly say marriage is all about making babies?
Yeah, I don't get this one either. I've always assumed all those smug christians who use that argument don't have sex once the wife's pregnant, don't again until they're ready to have another child, and of course, stop once the wife's beyond child-bearing years.

Otherwise, their argument really doesn't hold water.

 
Old 01-03-2013, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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FYI, waaaaaaay more heterosexuals than homosexuals practice anal sex.
Maybe in numbers, but percentage wise far more homosexuals practice anal sex. If you meet any guy in a gay bar usually the first thing he will ask is "are you a top or a bottom." There is no choice for "no anal." and if you say that, you will get weird looks at least or be called a self-loathing gay at worst. Anal sex is the defining sex act of gay couples like missionary is for straight couples. Anybody who denies this is either lying or doesn't go to gay bars.

None of this matters though. The people have spoken and most people are in favor of gay marriage. Soon there won't be a debate anymore and I look forward to that day when there might be less tension between liberals and conservatives. If you are against gay marriage you have the right to oppose it in your household and in your church, but as far as the civil government, the debate is all but settled.
 
Old 01-03-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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Anybody who denies this is either lying or doesn't go to gay bars.
Um, how many lesbians are having anal sex? I swear y'all act like gay men are the only homosexuals that exist.
 
Old 01-03-2013, 09:10 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Maybe in numbers, but percentage wise far more homosexuals practice anal sex. If you meet any guy in a gay bar usually the first thing he will ask is "are you a top or a bottom." There is no choice for "no anal." and if you say that, you will get weird looks at least or be called a self-loathing gay at worst. Anal sex is the defining sex act of gay couples like missionary is for straight couples. Anybody who denies this is either lying or doesn't go to gay bars.
Maybe if you're talking about gay MEN, but homosexuals also include lesbians - and AFAIK, they don't often practice that at all.

(not all gay men do either, and I'm not even sure the percentages are all that different)

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None of this matters though. The people have spoken and most people are in favor of gay marriage. Soon there won't be a debate anymore and I look forward to that day when there might be less tension between liberals and conservatives. If you are against gay marriage you have the right to oppose it in your household and in your church, but as far as the civil government, the debate is all but settled.
Yep, and it's only a matter of time before more states approve than oppose! As for the tension between liberals and conservatives, I don't think that's going anywhere unless we become a 3+ party nation.
 
Old 01-03-2013, 09:11 PM
 
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the same Jewish law that prevents me from selling a gun to a someone I believe may use it to murder someone (even if American law says I'm allowed to sell it to him) is the same Jewish law that prevents me from selling a wedding ring for a ---- "wedding".
So you do define your religion based upon the actions of those with whom you do commerce.

That's insanity.
 
Old 01-03-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Um, how many lesbians are having anal sex? I swear y'all act like gay men are the only homosexuals that exist.
Jinx, LOL. And you're totally right, the poor lesbians hardly get any air-time in the gay marriage/rights debates... I'm sure they don't mind, but it's weird how people are so focused on the MEN (especially when I'd imagine more lesbians than gay males are interested in marrying and/or raising children together).
 
Old 01-03-2013, 09:15 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I believe same-sex marriage will become legal throughout the US and the western world eventually.

Good will triumph over evil.

Love conquers all ... and that is what it is all about: Love victorious over hate, prejudice, and bigotry.

 
Old 01-03-2013, 09:17 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Nope I am boring.... A good part of my problem is i am willing to bet $$$ that gays of both sexes who 'marry' will want the feds to invest money into ssm kids by some means...

In other words with all these sex changes tax payers will need to spend on how 2 people of the same sex will get a sex change and still somehow have their own kids egg to egg or sperm to sperm..

Yeah I know you will roll your eyes but in the next 200 years you don't think it would be possible?

Not only do i think it would be possible but I believe it will be common.

But know man will never fly
Heterosexual breeders get tax credits for their children, right? And considering there are & will always be more of them than homosexuals raising children, your rage/concern is better aimed at them.

Now, what do sex changes have to do with anything? Since you're obviously not that informed about sexuality and science, I'll educate you now - gender dysmorphia is NOT part of the general homosexual orientation (it's a whole condition of its own).
 
Old 01-03-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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If that makes me an anti-semite, so be it. But if you think you have the right to discriminate, you are wrong. And if that causes you to reassess your ridiculous, discriminatory belief system, even better.
no it causes me to hate gays and their supporters and causes me to be even more anti left then I would normally be.
 
Old 01-03-2013, 09:21 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Same-sex "marriage" isn't legal in most states either. But that can be changed, can't it? If that can be changed, why can't we drop informed consent?
Because such a concept will NEVER receive the amount of support marriage between consenting adults (of any gender/s) has and will. Period.

Your slippery slope makes about as much sense as "Since the max speed limit was changed from 55mph to 70mph, why won't it eventually be 115mph?" Answer: because every society draws a line somewhere, otherwise we'd be legally allowed to murder, rape & steal by now. Speaking of which, what you're proposing IS legal rape - and society has already gone from legal to illegal on that, so I highly doubt we'll see that reversed in our lifetimes.
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