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Old 01-10-2013, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Actually he is claiming you don't care what happens to the kids once they are born.
Actually he knows nothing about me so it is just raw strawman argument
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Actually he knows nothing about me so it is just raw strawman argument
Thus is why I say "claiming."

But when you look at your posts, this is what we know about you.

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So your solution is to abort the 13 year old Nice job. so a is said there is a big difference in adoption terms of a 13 year old and a new born.Since new borns will be adopted why not let them live instead of killing them like pro abortionists like to do
There is actually no difference between the two because both are equal lives and if one claims that abortions are bad even though it might put more unwanted children into the world, then when it comes to adoption a new born and a teenager should be identical to anti-chioce people and they should be just as willing to adopt a 13 yr old who is in need of a loving home.

If you think there is a difference, then it sounds like you care less about the 13yr old and more about the newborn and that would be a wrong point of view for someone who claims to be "pro-life" unless you are saying you only care about life being born, but once that happens they are on their own and have to deal with the choices their parents make.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Thus is why I say "claiming."

But when you look at your posts, this is what we know about you.



There is actually no difference between the two because both are equal lives and if one claims that abortions are bad even though it might put more unwanted children into the world, then when it comes to adoption a new born and a teenager should be identical to anti-chioce people and they should be just as willing to adopt a 13 yr old who is in need of a loving home.

If you think there is a difference, then it sounds like you care less about the 13yr old and more about the newborn and that would be a wrong point of view for someone who claims to be "pro-life" unless you are saying you only care about life being born, but once that happens they are on their own and have to deal with the choices their parents make.
As i have pointed out in the thread almost all new Born's get adopted through private as well as public agencies. I 13 year old who has been put into CPS has not been put into CPS due to abuse or death of parents. I know of no 13 year olds in foster care who were put there as infants and stayed their their entire life.
the best chance for a 13 year old entering CPS or foster care is a family member or the foster family.
for your knowedge i beleive same sex couples should be able to adopt as long as they can go through the hoops of proving to be a stable home for the child as hetrosexual couples have to do

So your augment of pro lifers do not care about live children is so far off base and a straw man argument.Personally you do not know me or what i do.
One thing is for sure if you abort a child then you have given that child 0% chance of being adopted.Most couples do not look for aborted fetus to adopt.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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As i have pointed out in the thread almost all new Born's get adopted through private as well as public agencies. I 13 year old who has been put into CPS has not been put into CPS due to abuse or death of parents. I know of no 13 year olds in foster care who were put there as infants and stayed their their entire life.
the best chance for a 13 year old entering CPS or foster care is a family member or the foster family.
for your knowedge i beleive same sex couples should be able to adopt as long as they can go through the hoops of proving to be a stable home for the child as hetrosexual couples have to do

So your augment of pro lifers do not care about live children is so far off base and a straw man argument.Personally you do not know me or what i do.
One thing is for sure if you abort a child then you have given that child 0% chance of being adopted.Most couples do not look for aborted fetus to adopt.
And you have yet to back up that claim, I am actually curious how many newborns get adopted compared to the ones that don't.

Well seeing that a fetus hasn't experienced any bit of outside life, I don't think it notices the not getting the chance, and in the end of the day, it is still a woman's choice if she wants to have her own fetus growing inside her body, that is never going to be your choice or the government's choice.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:54 PM
 
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Let us know when you start adopting 13-year old kids with emotional/drug/medical problems out of the foster care system.
Actually it's the pro-abortion folks who should be leading the way in this endeavor. Aren't they the ones so concerned with all the born people? Get busy, plenty of them out there already born.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:39 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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Yeah your post is false with nothing to back it up. I will stick to the facts over your personal opinions.
What should I back up? That's common knowledge. How much of their budget goes to abortion and abortion related services? What are the facts here that you seem so certain of?

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Do you say that to everyone who donated money to groups they support? It is clear you have a personal hatred for PP that goes beyond what you have said in any of your post and i think that hatred is clouding your judgement.
She's trolling, I'm making sure she keeps her word by actually donating and posting proof. As far as I care she can keep donating until she puts herself into poverty. Not so much my distaste for PP, it's more of a personal distaste for her.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Planned Parenthood - what a joke of a name for that organization.
I have not read the subsequent posts , yet. No doubt I am not the first or last to suggest you get your facts straight.

3% of Planned Parenthood's services are abortion services and no abortions are funded by government.

Planned Parenthood at a Glance
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Alexandria
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What exactly is the point of this thread?

You hate PP? Well big effing deal. Don't use their services then.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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It didn't used to be that way. When Planned Parenthood first started its name fit. When I was in high school the only place a single teenage girl could get birth control was there. I guess they succeeded in getting American attitudes towards birth control changed so they aren't needed for that any more.
71 percent of clients receive services to prevent unintended pregnancy
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What should I back up? That's common knowledge. How much of their budget goes to abortion and abortion related services? What are the facts here that you seem so certain of?



She's trolling, I'm making sure she keeps her word by actually donating and posting proof. As far as I care she can keep donating until she puts herself into poverty. Not so much my distaste for PP, it's more of a personal distaste for her.
What you are trying to pass off as common knowledge is just opinion with no facts to back it up. You know they release their finances, you are welcome to read them and educate yourself with how much money goes to abortions and how much of their services is for abortions.
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