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Old 10-24-2007, 07:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by smackie94 View Post
i have more 89-110 hr work weeks then i can count....i need three seperate surguries i cant afford with health insurance. i know what its like, and every time i get a little more money somebody wants to take it away for someone else becasue now i am richer.

that is what i am sick of...
Well, if surgeries weren't that expensive - you wouldn't have to work that many hours.

 
Old 10-24-2007, 07:57 AM
 
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Thats funny, I was reading this forum this week and thinking just the opposite.

Surely more people here lean left, want just one proof? You've posted 5 pro "socialistic" postings, and have a rating of 18, wow, thats 360% positive ratio for each posting you've placed. Look at any conservative here, we are lucky to get 10%, and I for one have been given red marks simply because others have disagreed with my thoughts of individual responsibility.
This is why we don't want the conservatives to do math... 360% positive ratio for each posting... very fuzzy math there my friend.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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This is why we don't want the conservatives to do math... 360% positive ratio for each posting... very fuzzy math there my friend.
That was funny. I will give you a rep point for that.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 08:20 AM
 
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This is the way things should work, not by using the government to force others to provide your needs.
Thinking like this gives us absurd situations where people try to save money by not getting their tuberculosis treated. While that might make financial sense for one individual, it's a public health calamity.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Why does 'poor' automatically equate to 'welfare scum' to so many?

I'm poor. If I didn't work a few sidejobs there is no way I would be able to get everything paid every month. I sure as hell can't afford health insurance after I pay the rest of my bills, and the job I have, which I love with all my soul, will never be able to provide insurance for me. It's much too expensive for them, too. My health care consists of eating as well as possible and getting some exercise. If I get sick I'm totally screwed. I had to miss four days of work last year because I had the mother of all colds and I ending up having to borrow money from friends to pay rent, which I'm sure you can imagine really, really sucked.. I've paid them back, by the way...

What's disgusting to me is the idea that if I don't buy into your corporate culture and decide to do something meaningful with my life instead, I get paid too little and apparently don't deserve healthcare. The small paycheck I can handle, I have other trade-offs, but to have to trade my health and my life for that same choice I find infuriating. Lots of those that did buy into the corporate culture don't care if I get healthcare, if I live or die, and spit on me and people like me that don't want some gawdamn desk job crunching numbers for The Man but still feel like our health is important...

Get a higher paying job, you say? Kiss my ass, say I. Telling someone that they don't make enough money to matter is the very thing wrong our society... Well, one of 'em anyway.
Unfortunately; I can relate.

I happen to have health coverage (for now)-----till COBRA runs out. As for an individual plan; I have been flat turned down due to some nonsense about lab test results; probably because of my (slightly) high cholesterol.

My gut feeling that the real reason I am having a hell of a time getting individual coverage is due to my age (50).

BTW: I have no heartburn paying a couple of hundred dollars of month for health insurance------provided the deductable is ca. $500.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Thinking like this gives us absurd situations where people try to save money by not getting their tuberculosis treated. While that might make financial sense for one individual, it's a public health calamity.
Here's what happens when somebody can't afford a doctor (http://www.wvec.com/news/health/stories/wvec_local_100307_tb_testing_salem_hs.133f5af87.ht ml - broken link)

BTW, test results are in. 25 people were infected with active cases of Tuberculosis.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:28 AM
 
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You've made your decisions, and must live with the consequences. It seems that you've found a way to subsidize your needs by asking friends for help. This is the way things should work, not by using the government to force others to provide your needs.
Yeah, I'll be sure to ask my friends for chemo money if I come down with cancer. Or maybe I'll just lay down quietly and die like a good li'l po' person...
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:36 AM
 
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Yeah, I'll be sure to ask my friends for chemo money if I come down with cancer. Or maybe I'll just lay down quietly and die like a good li'l po' person...
If your friends don't have enough money for chemo, maybe you should consider a second job or a higher paying job to allow you to afford Catastrophic Health insurance. Isn't this a reasonable solution?
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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That is the idea! If all the people that cannot afford to pay for medical services just didn't expect any and went and died the lack of health insurance would not be a problem. Being able to pay for and receive good health care would be the ultimate privilege of the successful. They would have the ultimate "Right to Life"
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:48 AM
 
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Being able to pay for and receive good health care would be the ultimate privilege of the successful.
Or the ambitious and responsible.
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