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Old 03-31-2013, 07:07 AM
 
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WHAT ARSENAL?

they had a few firearms and a few hundredd rounds of ammo. it isnt like they had very much at all.
people also call her a prepper. heck, if she was a prepper, she would have a hell of a lot more lined in hard and deep. what she has was a start and nothing more.
It was ENOUGH, wasn't it? I don't care if you refer to it as an arsenal or a candy cane; it was ENOUGH for Adam Lanza to kill far too many people.
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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It was ENOUGH, wasn't it? I don't care if you refer to it as an arsenal or a candy cane; it was ENOUGH for Adam Lanza to kill far too many people.


the point being, is that what was available to him was not an arsenal. arsenals have thousands of firearms, not 5-6.

only in the east is 6 firearms and 1400 rounds of ammo ever considered an arsenal.

I wonder what liberals will do when they actually come across someone with more than 100 firearms and more than 100,000 rounds of ammo?

what is it then, not an arsenal but the arming of an army.

what joke that liberals and their yellow journalism tabloids are.


what the feds had in 93 was enough to murder 21 children and more than 70 people as well, but I dont hear you or anyone else on the liberal left screaming for the crucifixion of the feds. when will you give feds the same amount of abuse as you give firearm owners?
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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Why?

Bottom line - IF he was that mentally disturbed then - he should not have had access to guns. IF he was torturing small animals - then he should not have had access to guns.

He could have been taking a laundry list of medication and seen 25 psychiatrists - and this still would not have happened had he not been able to get his hands on all the guns.

Unfortunately, it is too late for his mother to take personal responsibility for her failure to properly secure her 'arsenal' OR to be smart enough to know that her son and loaded weapons - were not a good pair.

Your willingness to blame everyone but the shooter and his family doesn't sound much like 'personal responsibility' to me.

Whatever.
Oh but I digress..... I surely want 'personal responsibility', and from everyone involved not just the shooter.

For decades I have stated to end Parole, which is best done holding the entire board for 'personal responsibility'. Starting with the doctors, social workers the judge who signs off, the lawyers who fight for the parole, and etc etc for the offenders who return to a life of violent crime which it seems many do.



SO in this case I want the heads of ALL the 'personal responsibility' people involved starting at the top of a long list. These are 'Enablers' who work for the PC causes.

I hope this is clear. I will be writing to my reps about banning PC policy period.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:24 AM
 
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They (the left) calls it an arsenal because it sounds better and fits into their agenda of "guns are bad" and look at all the ammo this guy had.....OMG......OMG OMG OMG....he had an arsenal....look at all those bullets....

Goes right along with black gun are scary....so we must get rid of them......
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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the point being, is that what was available to him was not an arsenal. arsenals have thousands of firearms, not 5-6.

only in the east is 6 firearms and 1400 rounds of ammo ever considered an arsenal.

I wonder what liberals will do when they actually come across someone with more than 100 firearms and more than 100,000 rounds of ammo?

what is it then, not an arsenal but the arming of an army.

what joke that liberals and their yellow journalism tabloids are.


what the feds had in 93 was enough to murder 21 children and more than 70 people as well, but I dont hear you or anyone else on the liberal left screaming for the crucifixion of the feds. when will you give feds the same amount of abuse as you give firearm owners?
MY point - it doesn't matter if it was 1 gun or 100. He should not have had access to guns. I could care less about the semantics of an 'arsenal'. Hence the quotation marks the first time around.

Your focus is not on what matters in this instance.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:44 AM
 
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MY point - it doesn't matter if it was 1 gun or 100. He should not have had access to guns. I could care less about the semantics of an 'arsenal'. Hence the quotation marks the first time around.

Your focus is not on what matters in this instance.
But but but but but but the PC enable everyone so no one ever should FEEL bad.......

I tel;l you what I friggin' FEEL BAD today! Do you know what day this IS?

This is EASTER! Do you know WHAT I was doing Easter 1999?

I was involved in a double murder where a wacko just like this wacko who was enabled by the doctors the nurses the judges the lawyers, who ALL knew said wacko was a danger and DID NOTHING!

Nothing even the day before when said wacko was SHOT in the friggin ankle by the COPS. That must have been a mistake since the cops hit him at all For Stealing KNIVES.

And then the FAILED PC System let the bad guy a sick wacko OFF his meds, the one every one KNEW was torturing small animals.

it doesn't matter if the wacko had 100 knives or just 1 he KILLED people in my family and for that I want
still want ALL PC Enablers HEADS!

After the last wacko is locked up, and so are all the PC enablers, maybe then and only then will I consider giving up my self defense guns.

I will never give up my hunting guns or the others to cause fear amoungst poly tics as i will always reserve my RIGHT to take the govt BACK if a need should arise in 4 year..

No access to guns? How about NO access to the outside world!
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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But but but but but but the PC enable everyone so no one ever should FEEL bad.......

I tel;l you what I friggin' FEEL BAD today! Do you know what day this IS?

This is EASTER! Do you know WHAT I was doing Easter 1999?

I was involved in a double murder where a wacko just like this wacko who was enabled by the doctors the nurses the judges the lawyers, who ALL knew said wacko was a danger and DID NOTHING!

Nothing even the day before when said wacko was SHOT in the friggin ankle by the COPS. That must have been a mistake since the cops hit him at all For Stealing KNIVES.

And then the FAILED PC System let the bad guy a sick wacko OFF his meds, the one every one KNEW was torturing small animals.

it doesn't matter if the wacko had 100 knives or just 1 he KILLED people in my family and for that I want
still want ALL PC Enablers HEADS!

After the last wacko is locked up, and so are all the PC enablers, maybe then and only then will I consider giving up my self defense guns.

I will never give up my hunting guns or the others to cause fear amoungst poly tics as i will always reserve my RIGHT to take the govt BACK if a need should arise in 4 year..

No access to guns? How about NO access to the outside world!
Well, thank you for sharing your motivation; I think I understand what you are saying. I'm sorry if something bad happened to your family.
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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Well, thank you for sharing your motivation; I think I understand what you are saying. I'm sorry if something bad happened to your family.
I got sloppy writing but i think it is clear enough.... I am not over that yet.... I doubt i ever will be.

In time we will find Adam was a product of a sick PC ideology that pretended to make him equal so his feelings would not be hurt. We will discover the PC knew he was a danger and did nothing but push him forward telling him lies and that he would be normal and equal and he found out other wise and did what he did to get even for a life time of lies from the enabling PC left.

med to wake up more meds to cope, and more meds to sleep and lie after lie.... If you were treated that way and then went off your meds you might get that same way i think I might too.

This problem has nothing to do with the gun.... had it not been a gun it would have been anything else. You can thank the stars this wacko kid was not very good with a gun.

Anyone with more skills would have killed hundreds. i could have..... if i wanted with a knife i could have doubled his kills..... I could have with a base ball bat too.....

We are lucky these wackos have no serious skills...

The killer in my family's case was bigger and far stronger than Adam. a far larger threat, and a well known one at that but as always was coddled and catered to by the PC enablers.

There are going to be people born with a wide variety of mental problems. This can not be prevented.

But we can prevent the PC from allowing them full access to open society... We should hold the PC enablers accountable. In fact i demand it.

This has nothing to do with the gun, but it has everything to do with the PC feel good notion which is just silly non sense even if it offends.

It is what it is.

If all the guns were some how to just go missing....... These wackos would still kill, and the PC would still set about wring their hands and proclaiming the sky is falling..
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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I got sloppy writing but i think it is clear enough.... I am not over that yet.... I doubt i ever will be.

In time we will find Adam was a product of a sick PC ideology that pretended to make him equal so his feelings would not be hurt. We will discover the PC knew he was a danger and did nothing but push him forward telling him lies and that he would be normal and equal and he found out other wise and did what he did to get even for a life time of lies from the enabling PC left.

med to wake up more meds to cope, and more meds to sleep and lie after lie.... If you were treated that way and then went off your meds you might get that same way i think I might too.

This problem has nothing to do with the gun.... had it not been a gun it would have been anything else. You can thank the stars this wacko kid was not very good with a gun.

Anyone with more skills would have killed hundreds. i could have..... if i wanted with a knife i could have doubled his kills..... I could have with a base ball bat too.....

We are lucky these wackos have no serious skills...

The killer in my family's case was bigger and far stronger than Adam. a far larger threat, and a well known one at that but as always was coddled and catered to by the PC enablers.

There are going to be people born with a wide variety of mental problems. This can not be prevented.

But we can prevent the PC from allowing them full access to open society... We should hold the PC enablers accountable. In fact i demand it.

This has nothing to do with the gun, but it has everything to do with the PC feel good notion which is just silly non sense even if it offends.

It is what it is.

If all the guns were some how to just go missing....... These wackos would still kill, and the PC would still set about wring their hands and proclaiming the sky is falling..
Here's where you lost me. And blaming every thing on a "PC" nation - well, it just doesn't make sense to me OR consider any 'personal responsibility'. Your demands are meaningless; you are not in a position to 'make demands' of the nation- though I understand your need to control.

A drunk driver killed my brother. Who should I blame?
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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MY point - it doesn't matter if it was 1 gun or 100. He should not have had access to guns. I could care less about the semantics of an 'arsenal'. Hence the quotation marks the first time around.

Your focus is not on what matters in this instance.


personally I look at it this way. there should not be 1 firearm law on either the states or the feds lawbooks, not 1 law.

why? it has already been proven that neither the insane nor the criminals will ever follow the law. that means that all current gun control laws only effect 1 group of citizens, the already law abiding.

since we as a people already know that the criminals and the insane wont follow the laws, then why are politicians, democrats and even some republicans doing their damndest to disarm the law abiding.

maybe those that dont want firearms in their homes or on their persons just leave the rest of us alone and stay in their gated communities.

I would rather be able to arm myself with the best firearms I can be armed with in order to protect my family and myself, than to be limited by a government who just seeks to make it easier for criminals to rape, rob and murder.
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