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Old 04-04-2013, 10:00 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by NewNHguy View Post
Wow,
26 pages.....

Lanza, as we all know by now had serious issues, IGNORED by his medical PROFESSIONALS and FAMILY. He was a nut, and should have been treated as such...

His mother was an enabler allowing him to 'hoard' and I use that loosely, all that worthless crap. 6 guns doesn't even count as a collection. Media spin.

The media loves to use words like arsenal and Assault rifle.

Webster's definition of arsenal;
Definition of ARSENAL

1
a : an establishment for the manufacture or storage of arms and military equipment
b : a collection of weapons

2
: store, repertoire <the team's arsenal of veteran players>

more media spin, to provoke a reaction. Just dirty laundry....
Obama jumped at the chance to play it up, and push his anti gun agenda, that in his first term, swore he would not do....go figure.
He should devote as much energy towards the wastefull spending and less Gov'ment intrusion into our lives...
Socialist.

The public will NEVER know if the weapon used was a pistol, or the rifle, because the spin was a rifle....so it sticks....I personally would like to see the REAL official report. And what ever happened to the initial reports of the police catching someone else in the woods around the school......that just went away too.

26 senseless deaths caused my an INSANE person who used a tool, to perpetrate evil.
So punish the law abiders for the crimes of others.......makes sense....

Someone spoke of a loved one lost to a drunk driver.

Eye for an eye in my book. The drunk should be punished SEVERELY for the loss of life or injury to another...

My wife's grandparents were attacked by their health care live in with a 22 ounce Estwing claw hammer. She was bent on KILLING them, and stealing their money. She tied up and systematically beat her grandfather while demanding the grandmother tell where the money was.....
He got loose and with what little strength he had left fought her off.
She was convicted and was killed in prison.....what a shame......NOT!

Should we outlaw hammers....it's another tool.


As a society we have gotten soft and sloppy.
in a year, this will be forgotten and we'll be bombarded with the next media spin of stool.

Do unto others.......you know it.
Eye for an eye......you betcha

I'm a gun lovin' ammo hoardin' animal huntin', target shootin', non bunny-huggin-non vegan Conservative!!!!!

Don't like it, too bad.
Well, per Webster - I believe that Lanza's stash meets the definition of 'arsenal' per 1 (b). So, at least we've cleared up that point.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Well, per Webster - I believe that Lanza's stash meets the definition of 'arsenal' per 1 (b). So, at least we've cleared up that point.


adam lanzas did not even have a collection of firearms. he just had a few.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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adam lanzas did not even have a collection of firearms. he just had a few.
Per Webster's again:

Definition of COLLECTION

1
: the act or process of collecting

2
a: something collected; especially: an accumulation of objects gathered for study, comparison, or exhibition or as a hobby
b: group, aggregate
c: a set of apparel designed for sale usually in a particular season
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Let Freedom Ring.

At the school:
1 Bushmaster .223 caliber model XM15 rifle with a 30-round magazine
1 Glock 10mm handgun
1 9mm Sig Sauer P226 handgun
1 Saiga 12 shotgun with two magazines containing 70 rounds
6 30-round magazines, three of them emptied

At the home:

Guns:
1 Enfield Albian bolt-action .323 rifle
1 Savage Mark II .22 caliber rifle with magazine, 3 live rounds, 1 spent cartridge
1 black marksman BB gun

Ammunition:
5 Winchester 12-gauge shotgun shells cut open, with buckshot
1 white plastic bag with 30 Winchester 12-gauge shotgun shells
1 can with .22 caliber and .45 caliber bullets
8 boxes of Winchester Windcat .22 caliber bullets, 50 rounds per box
20 "Estate" 12-gauge shotgun shells
4 boxes of SB buckshot 12-gauge, 10 round per box
1 box of Lightfield 12-gauge slugs
1 box of 20 Prvi Partizan 303 British rifle cartridges
1 box of 20 Federal 303 British rifle cartridges
2 boxes of .22 long rifle Blazer rounds, 50 each box
1 box with numerous rounds of Winchester .45 caliber bullets
2 boxes of 50 rounds of PPU .45 caliber automatic
1 box of 20 rounds for Remington .223 caliber
3 boxes of Blazer 40 S&W, 50 rounds each
2 boxes of Winchester 5.56 mm, 20 rounds each
1 box of Magtech 45ACP with 30 rounds
1 empty Box of SSA 5.56 mm
1 box of Fiocchi .45 auto with 48 rounds
80 rounds of CCI .22 long rifle
6 boxes of PMC .223 rem, 20 rounds each
6 Winchester 9 pellet buckshot shells, 12-gauge
2 Remington 12-gauge slugs
3 Winchester .223 rifle rounds
31 .22 caliber rounds
2 boxes of Underwood 10 mm auto, each with 50 rounds
130 rounds of Lawman 9mm Luger
2 spent shell casings for Glock 10mm
1 empty box of Gold Dot 9mm Luger
2 empty boxes of Winchester 9mm Luger
1 box of Underwood 10mm auto with 34 rounds
1 box of 29 miscellaneous 9mm rounds
1 spent .22 shell casing
1 small plastic bag containing numerous .22 caliber bullets
1 tan bag with numerous Blazer .45 caliber bullets
1 box of Blazer .22 long rifle with 50 rounds
1 box PPU 303 British cartridges with 9 rounds
2 Winchester 9mm rounds
2 brass-colored shell casings
1 small caliber bullet (live round) labeled C

Magazines:
1 Promag 20-round 12-gauge drum magazine
1 MD Arms 20-round 12 gauge drum magazine
3 AGP Arms 12-gauge shotgun magazines
1 Surefire GunMag magazine with 8 rounds of Winchester 12-gauge, 9-pellet buckshot
2 AGP Arms 12-gauge shotgun magazines, taped together, each with 10 rounds of Winchester 9-pellet buckshot
2 empty Ram Line magazines for Ruger 10-22
1 AGP Arms Gen 2 12-gauge shotgun magazine with 10 rounds of Winchester 12-gauge, 9-pellet buckshot
1 clear plastic Ramline magazine for an AR 15
1 magazine with 10 rounds of .223 bullets

Knives:
Metal bayonet
1 6-foot-10-inch wood-handled two-sided pole with a blade on one side and a spear on the other
1 Samurai sword with a 28-inch blade and sheath
1 Samurai sword with a 21-inch blade and a sheath
1 Samurai sword with a 13-inch blade and sheath
1 knife with a 12-inch blade and sheath
1 wooden-handle knife with a 7.5-inch blade and sheath
1 wooden-handle knife with a 10-inch blade
1 knife with a 5.5-inch blade and sheath
1 black-handled knife with a 7-inch blade and sheath
1 black rubber-handled knife with 9.5-inch blade and sheath
1 white and brown-handled knife with 5-inch blade and sheath
1 brown wood-handled knife with a 10.25-inch blade
1 Panther brown-handled folding knife with a 3.75 inch blade
1 small blue folding knife

Gear:
1 Volcanic .22 starter pistol wth 5 live rounds and 1 expended round
Leightning L3 ear protection
Peltor ear plugs
Simmons binoculars
Uncle Mike's Sidekick nylon holster
Box for vest accessories
Leather dual magazine holder
Black leather handgun holster
High Sierra fanny pack
Numerous paper targets
1 cardboard targets
1 Bushnell sport view rifle scope
Plastic bag of miscellaneous parts
Safariland holster paperwork
Glock handgun manual
MD-20 20-round shotgun magazine manual
MD Arms V-Plug guide
Bushmaster XM15 and C15 instruction manual
Savage Arms bolt-action rifle manual
Glock paperwork

Miscellaneous:
Adam Lanza's National Rifle Association certificate
Nancy Lanza's NRA certificate
(wonder if they were lifetime members?)
His "arsenal" sucks. Anyone who is scared by this stuff is just plain ignorant.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:15 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Per Webster's again:

Definition of COLLECTION

1
: the act or process of collecting

2
a: something collected; especially: an accumulation of objects gathered for study, comparison, or exhibition or as a hobby
b: group, aggregate
c: a set of apparel designed for sale usually in a particular season


the mom was not collecting. the mom was gathering for a specific purpose. not for study or any other purpose.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:20 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Well, per Webster - I believe that Lanza's stash meets the definition of 'arsenal' per 1 (b). So, at least we've cleared up that point.
Here is a more accurate description
Arsenal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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the mom was not collecting. the mom was gathering for a specific purpose. not for study or any other purpose.
What purpose? Never mind- let's look up collecting:

transitive verb
1
a: to bring together into one body or place
b: to gather or exact from a number of persons or sources <collect taxes>
c: to gather an accumulation of (objects) especially as a hobby <collects stamps>

2
: infer, deduce

3
: to gain or regain control of <collect his thoughts>

4
: to claim as due and receive payment for

5
: to get and bring with one; specifically: pick up <went to collect her at the train station>

intransitive verb
1
: to come together in a band, group, or mass : gather

2
a: to collect objects
b: to receive payment <collecting on the insurance>

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Old 04-04-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: North America
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Nancy Lanza was as bat **** crazy as her son.
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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His "arsenal" sucks. Anyone who is scared by this stuff is just plain ignorant.
Oh well, sorry it wasn't large enough for you. What a shame. Maybe he could have killed 75 people instead.
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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Oh well, sorry it wasn't large enough for you. What a shame. Maybe he could have killed 75 people instead.

According to the crime scene report, it took only 5 minutes to get in, kill the kids and teachers, and off himself.

5 minutes.
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