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If recent graduates are unable to pay college loans how in hell are they supposed to pay for raising children? Do all the other Mormons contribute to each other so they can have as many children as possible? I did not hear him proposing some way to have a full employment society. I only heard about his full unemployment economy based on the first principles of Mammon or was that Mormon?
Maybe they should have gone to a Community College for the first 2 years and/or worked there way through INSTEAD of racking up big student loans.
Heaven forbid they make good financial decisions.
Here is hint for you. If you CAN'T afford to go, don't!
So it is free market capitalism for us and socialism for them. How Republican.
More or less. Young Mormon families receive much more food. clothing and other necessities from the LDS relief agencies than money, but sometimes the rent is paid or an unexpected emergency is paid.
The church has it's own canaries, meat packers, and frozen foods facilities that are all supplied from crops grown on church farms or gathered as tithes, or just volunteered. All are manned by volunteers who are all members. It also has used clothing and furniture shops similar to Salvation Army Stores, and much other stuff in bought and donated in many different ways to their needy.
It is for sure a form of socialism, but they do not see it that way at all. Saying anything about socialism will get you an irate argument in a split second. For them, it is a long tradition of helping each other out that goes all the way back to the foundation of the church.
yea, we're really lucky having "Obama The Stupid" as president...
mr "7 trillion $$'s and counting"...
mr "screw the constitution, we didnt have one in kenya and look how well I turned out"
yea... we're sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooo
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oooooooooooo much better off with Obama the window-licker as president....
More or less. Young Mormon families receive much more food. clothing and other necessities from the LDS relief agencies than money, but sometimes the rent is paid or an unexpected emergency is paid.
The church has it's own canaries, meat packers, and frozen foods facilities that are all supplied from crops grown on church farms or gathered as tithes, or just volunteered. All are manned by volunteers who are all members. It also has used clothing and furniture shops similar to Salvation Army Stores, and much other stuff in bought and donated in many different ways to their needy. .
It's voluntary socialism. Nothing wrong with it and it works very well most of the time.
Government socialism doesn't work because it involves the threat of force.
It's voluntary socialism. Nothing wrong with it and it works very well most of the time.
Government socialism doesn't work because it involves the threat of force.
So you say, if you are for welfare, then why oppose government welfare? Isn't the government just the people? Is there really a fundamental difference between faith-based or private welfare and public welfare?
Well, disregard the threat of force issue. While I'm not a big fan of government using force, I don't believe that there is a fundamental argument by any political philosophy which doesn't tolerate on some level the use of force by the government(other than maybe anarchy).
The real issue in my mind when it comes to socialism, is not the intentions, but rather the results. And the problem with public welfare is simply that it always fails.
The primary problem is that it disincentivizes people to contribute to society, and moreover, it incentivizes them to just take whatever they can get from society.... And while so does private charity to some degree, it is nowhere near the same level as public charity.
In the case of a church-based charity. Generally, people see themselves as a single group, and tend to be more hesitant to take from the church unless they really need it. Because they believe they are taking from someone else who does need it. With government charity, the mindset is more that you want to get "your fair share" or to "get what you deserve" from the government. Basically, public charity creates almost a competition for handouts by competing groups. Who send Congressman to Washington D.C. whose primary job is to try to get as much money as they can get from the federal government for their group.
The truth is, there are a huge number of young, able-bodied men, who choose not to work because the government is basically supporting them, and they just don't care. It is becoming a sort of epidemic in this country. They took the work-requirement away from the food stamp program, and the number of young people on the program has exploded. Imagine if they brought back the old unlimited cash welfare payments, and some of the more generous housing programs. The number of people on welfare would absolutely explode.
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