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Old 07-01-2013, 06:33 PM
 
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Please provide your survey results of every woman you asked who has had an abortion. RemembeR ALL women who have had an abortion

you need to start with women in the year 1760 BCE.

come back to use when you have invented the time machine and interviewed every woman.
Sure, After you provide your survey of all the women that had "a problem with the child in the womb" vs. women that aborted for "Convenience"
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:42 PM
 
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I will reply sure personal responsibility is a great thing and most women are responsible. abortion is responsible. before pregnancy women use birth control, sometimes it doesn't work. women who are in their 40's and done with having children sometimes find they are pregnant because of BC failures. these woman should not have to have another baby if they don't want to.
First off, Abortion is not responsible, Abortion is a means to an end. Doctors make Women sign waivers in case of a "mishap" so they can't be held unaccountable if something bad happens.. why is that? If it's soooooo responsible??


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for that matter neither should a dumb teenager who got carried away one night have to have a baby. babies raising babies is not the way to go.
Personal Responsibility could've gone a long way here.

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women who do not want a baby should not be forced into being a mother. irresponsible people are better off not having children. hookers and drug addicts? you want them having children? they make great moms
Women who don't want to be forced to carry a baby full term if they don't want it, should've taken Personal Responsibility prior to laying down in heat.

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government passing laws:
yes government did need to intervene to make abortion legal. women were dying from back alley and coat hanger abortions. women do desperate things when they don't want to remain pregnant. abortion needs to remain legal and safe. period.
Government is the culprit who allowed Abortions in this country in the first place. Didn't make them safer one bit. that's just propaganda you heard, it's not a lick of truth to it. Doctors saw greenbacks $$$ and Government moved in to help their lobby succeed. period.

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now your questions for the 4th time

how are you gonna make sure women stay pregnant that do not want to be? armed guarded breeding camps?

sex education in schools? free and low cost birth control for the sexually active? in agreement?

why should women live by your moral value and not their own?
You don't. IF she's smart she wouldn't try anything radical to abort the baby if the Laws are against it. But once she has it, IF she still doesn't want it, pay for the Adoption costs to house it until a family can come and adopt the child. OR Get her selfish lazy behind in gear and raise that kid no matter how tough it gets. She didn't think it was so tough to lay down spread Eagle to receive the blessing now did she?

Life is Choices and Consequences, nobody rides for free. You buy a choice, you pay the consequence.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:46 PM
 
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First off, Abortion is not responsible, Abortion is a means to an end. Doctors make Women sign waivers in case of a "mishap" so they can't be held unaccountable if something bad happens.. why is that? If it's soooooo responsible??



Personal Responsibility could've gone a long way here.

Women who don't want to be forced to carry a baby full term if they don't want it, should've taken Personal Responsibility prior to laying down in heat.

Government is the culprit who allowed Abortions in this country in the first place. Didn't make them safer one bit. that's just propaganda you heard, it's not a lick of truth to it. Doctors saw greenbacks $$$ and Government moved in to help their lobby succeed. period.

You don't. IF she's smart she wouldn't try anything radical to abort the baby if the Laws are against it. But once she has it, IF she still doesn't want it, pay for the Adoption costs to house it until a family can come and adopt the child. OR Get her selfish lazy behind in gear and raise that kid no matter how tough it gets. She didn't think it was so tough to lay down spread Eagle to receive the blessing now did she?

Life is Choices and Consequences, nobody rides for free. You buy a choice, you pay the consequence.
How long have you had issues with females? Jesus, this post is basically a cry for help.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:51 PM
 
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You need to stop, because this is an outright lie.
You have no idea how many women are mangled down there after an abortion. you go off what you see on CNN is not enough. talking to normal victims of Abortion is better. Gives you a better scope of the Big picture. not just the picture Doctors and Abortion clinics want you to see or know.

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Here in the US, you more likely to survive an abortion, than pregnancy (and for some reason or another - mostly cardiovascular disease, pregnancy related deaths are on the rise):

Abortion Surveillance — United States, 2009

CDC - Pregnancy-related Deaths - Maternal and Infant Health - Reproductive Health
from 2009?;....LOL..



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Now, if you are talking about countries outside the US, statistics are rare and hard to come by, but I'm not concerned about the happenings in other countries

No it doesn't. Abortion has to be paid for up front. Some clinics allow a person to do payment plans, in order to pay for it. It never falls to "other" people to pay for.
Some not all., but you seem to have stats for everything so please post the ones that do give payment plans. let's not forget that the majority of the Abortion mothers are poor. So who pays for them?


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Notice how you only focus on the MOTHER, but no complaints against the FATHER. Seeing as it takes a MAN in order for the woman to become pregnant.

What are your solutions to making the man pay?
BECAUSE, at the end of the day, the WOMAN, is in control of her own body no? You said it yourself. SO, that means, that SHE is the last word on if the Man can enter her with a coat on, or not. The choice is NEVER his. unless the female is Raped or a gullible knucklehead with no Personal Responsibility.

there's that phrase again...
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:55 PM
 
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How long have you had issues with females? Jesus, this post is basically a cry for help.
Are you upset or something? I'm not. I'm discussing the shallow mindset of those that promote Abortion as the New Contraception. What are you doing?
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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Here's my last comments and I'm done:

If you kill the children, You kill the society. America is the only country that Aborts babies at such an alarming rate as we do. save China. go figure.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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Are you upset or something? I'm not. I'm discussing the shallow mindset of those that promote Abortion as the New Contraception. What are you doing?
I'm watching someone with some deep-seated issues with females display it for all to see on a public forum. That we have another uptight right-winger who hates the idea of consequence-free sex is not particularly notable. That we have one that does so little to conceal the reason why he blathers on and on about it is somewhat notable.
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I'm watching someone with some deep-seated issues with females display it for all to see on a public forum. That we have another uptight right-winger who hates the idea of consequence-free sex is not particularly notable. That we have one that does so little to conceal the reason why he blathers on and on about it is somewhat notable.
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I still remember my Dad telling me son "Personal Responsibility is the anchor of good Character. Every decision you make will start there and the results will end up as a bullet point on your Character resume in the eyes of other people.""

Having said that, and now an adult, I tend to question the character of those who are Against Gun Ownership and those For Abortion. In some cases there are Gun supporters that also support Abortion, but the point is the same. Personal Responsibility.

Why do non-Gun Owners want to un-arm those that are Personally Responsible Gun Owners?

and

Why is Abortion prommoted when Abstience/Personal Responsibility(safe sex) is not?


It would appear as though the Gun Grabbers and the Baby Killers are playing for the same Personally Irresponsible team imo.


Why is do you think Personal Responsiblitiy is shunned in favor of Government Intervention??
The Sexual Revolution, birth control pill and no fault divorce.
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Leadership. Those that take on the roles of leaders are rarely qualified- Most are not leaders but want the status of leadership. Most if not all people who enter into politics are NOT our best. Just the fact that they want to be politicians should disqualify them immediately...In short...idiots rule. It's not a mystery on how things went wrong...There are more stupid people than intelligent ones...and stupid people have learned that there is safety in numbers..and they know they can quash intelligent opposition...Plainly...the red fire ants have overwhelmed the bee hive.
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