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Old 07-05-2013, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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The BBC site and their twitter site is where I read it.
Al Jazeera is also posting bits and pieces.
I guess you weren't paying attention when I posted about Al Jazeera.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Let's see, considering the damage Moris has done to the country in the one year he was in office, should the people really wait three years while the bodies pile up, have innocent people sent to jail, poverty spread, unemployment climb, suppress women, so on and so forth, and Morsi using Tahrir Square for beheadings and stonings to vote him out of office? That really makes sense.
Well we have almost all the same here except the beheadings haven't started yet

Obviously the people of Egypt are not ready for democracy since they changed their minds after they voted. So let the power brokers put someone in charge that will do their bidding and throw enough crumbs to the people to keep them pacified.

Not like we haven't done that type of thing before.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:19 PM
 
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I guess you weren't paying attention when I posted about Al Jazeera.
Yes, I read your comment.

Al Jazeera was also the mouthpiece of Al Quaida back in the Bush administration.

Al Jazeera always seems to be the mouthpiece of the current "boogieman". Isn't that a funny coincidence ?

Al-Jazeera: Mouthpiece of al-Qaida? - World news - Terrorism | NBC News

I'll make up my own mind about Al Jazeera but won't only rely on only them for news.
They did call it right on Benghazi from the get go though.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Yes, I read your comment.

Al Jazeera was also the mouthpiece of Al Quaida back in the Bush administration.

Al Jazeera always seems to be the mouthpiece of the current "boogieman". Isn't that a funny coincidence ?

Al-Jazeera: Mouthpiece of al-Qaida? - World news - Terrorism | NBC News

I'll make up my own mind about Al Jazeera but won't only rely on only them for news.
They did call it right on Benghazi from the get go though.
Al Jazeera is actually a pretty good secondary source.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:29 PM
 
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Morsi was democratically elected for 4 years.
The people could have waited until the next election and voted him out.

That's what civilized people with laws do..follow them.
Yes, let's definitely judge other nations from atop our high horse there on the moral high ground, and do so by our own American standards. Especially if said nation has never in its entire history lived under anything but autocracies.

What are those silly brown people thinking, not doing things exactly as, oh, New Yorkers or Alabamans would do them?
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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Well we have almost all the same here except the beheadings haven't started yet

Obviously the people of Egypt are not ready for democracy since they changed their minds after they voted. So let the power brokers put someone in charge that will do their bidding and throw enough crumbs to the people to keep them pacified.

Not like we haven't done that type of thing before.
You appear to have read not one word of the current coverage of events from people who actually understand, live in and/or report on the ME regularly.

Your continued supercilious, condescending tone is exactly the reason why most of the rest of the world hates Americans. Ooooo look, crazy Mooooozlims! Run for your lives!

Your bigotry is duly noted, and your further simplistic ramblings on an incredibly complex subject will be duly ignored.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:39 PM
 
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What's significant here is the push-back by people in the Middle East against fundamental Islamic governance, as noted by Thomas Friedman in his NYTimes article, including:

-- a rebellion of the secular, urbanized youth in Turkey against the Islamist Justice and Development Party there

-- Iranian voters elected a moderate leader and not a hard-line Islamist

-- in Tunisia voters forced the Islamist Ennahda party in Tunisia to compromise with two secular center-left parties in writing a broad-based constitution not overly tilted toward Shariah law

-- Libyans voted in a coalition led by a Western-educated political scientist instead of Islamist opponents

He concludes that in the Middle East "the more moderate, non-Islamist, political center has started to push back on Islamist parties."



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/op...nted=all&_r=1&
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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Al Jazeera is actually a pretty good secondary source.
I always try to find a second site/article that corroborates the stories these days.
Objective news is dead and I figure it's up to me if I want the real news or be bamboozled by biased propaganda cherry picking stories of what is going on.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:45 PM
 
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You appear to have read not one word of the current coverage of events from people who actually understand, live in and/or report on the ME regularly.

Your continued supercilious, condescending tone is exactly the reason why most of the rest of the world hates Americans. Ooooo look, crazy Mooooozlims! Run for your lives!

Your bigotry is duly noted, and your further simplistic ramblings on an incredibly complex subject will be duly ignored.
LOL..I guess you are a pro coup supporter. Or maybe you side with the Dems who are trying to define what a coup really is and whether or not that is what happened in Egypt cause we wouldn't want to cut off their money, now would we ?

The country is not ready for democracy.
A petition and some polls swayed the army into a coup ?
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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Well we have almost all the same here except the beheadings haven't started yet

Obviously the people of Egypt are not ready for democracy since they changed their minds after they voted. So let the power brokers put someone in charge that will do their bidding and throw enough crumbs to the people to keep them pacified.

Not like we haven't done that type of thing before.
You still don't get it and I don't think you ever will. How is it "obvious" that they don't want democracy. They want democracy, they just didn't want an un-democratic president. You refuse to educate yourself as to what he did to that country and the people in one year. You don't understand the power that he gave himself, the immunity he gave himself for his Presidential decisions.

You either know very little or refuse to get past your belief that Morsi should have remained in office because he was voted in through a democratic process and the people and country should suffer for the next three years to vote him out. The way he was going, when he was voted in that would have been the last time people voted.
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