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I hate to point this out...but that is what defense attorneys do. Their job is to use any legal tactic to get their client off. Regardless of that person's innocence or guilt. Just as it's the prosecution's job to use all of their skills within the framework of the law to achieve a conviction. At the trial state, sad as it is, right and wrong, actual guilt or innocence, really don't matter. It's about doing whatever it takes to win. And it's the judge's job to "referree" the show and make sure both sides play by the rules (law).
Who said Zimmerman wanted to detain, or even question, Martin? Is there any evidence or testimony that contradicts the claim that he wanted to observe M so that the police, who were enroute, could question him?
I haven't seen anything that says Z even spoke until after "confronted" by Martin, per his girlfriend's statement. According to her (correct me if I'm wrong here) the first words uttered between them were by Martin.
I'm not saying that's the case, but what evidence indicates anything else?
I hate to point this out...but that is what defense attorneys do. Their job is to use any legal tactic to get their client off. Regardless of that person's innocence or guilt. Just as it's the prosecution's job to use all of their skills within the framework of the law to achieve a conviction. At the trial state, sad as it is, right and wrong, actual guilt or innocence, really don't matter. It's about doing whatever it takes to win. And it's the judge's job to "referree" the show and make sure both sides play by the rules (law).
Yes, I understand that Zimmerman is entitled to the best defense possible. However, the animation and Root's testimony are largely based on Zimmerman's stories. It seems questionable that they have to rely on evidence that comes from a source that is purely self-serving. It reminds me of the days when a female could be raped, and if she brought charges against the offender she'd be subject to questions about how she usually dressed, how often did she have sex, etc. If your defense case is strong, it wouldn't be necessary to try to assassinate the character of the victim.
Thank you for being reasonable. This has been my point from the beginning. At work we had to take a class called bridges.
Bridge is down we can communicate. Bridge is up you have problems.
The class went on to give different scenarios most of which were not even realistic. But the point was made. Perceptions are everything.
GZ's perception was that TM was an e-fing punk and an a-hole. He behaved and approached the situation according to that perception.
TM noticed he was being followed. His perception was that GZ was a creepy white guy. He behaved accordingly.
Both behaved in a way that escalated the moment out of control. Neither used common sense. Neither really attempted to be civil.
This is what happens when idiots clash.
Excellent points you make today. If I might add, anyone in any neighborhood that sees someone they think looks out of place or suspicious? I don't personally think it's prudent to go over and introduce yourself and try to engage in smalltalk.
If I had seen TM that night, a darker and rainy night, I would have stayed in my vehicle and on the call. It's a big world out there, and an unpredictable one. Some unsuspecting neighborhood watch person some night, may do exactly what GZ did that night. Better to wait for law enforcement rather than test out how lucky you are that night. A crowbar in the face would suck, as would a bullet.
I just hope this incident doesn't make others that are also "fed up" any braver.
Good discussion of legal concealled carry right now. Particularly when it's OK to draw a gun, carry with a round in the chamber and how IWB holsters are common.
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