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Old 07-11-2013, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Are you ready for that if it were to happen say next week? or say December 31,2013?

Ask yourself. Hypothetically speaking of course. China would never declare war on America.

Playing the hypothetical, if they were to try, they would have terribly long, vulnerable supply lines, all supplied by sea. Our navy would have that cut in a day, their troops in SA would have to learn to like tacos and Mariachi music. In addition, we'd eliminate trade with them. Without our trade deficit, their economy would collapse in a week.

A much more viable prospect is for China to invade Russia, specifically Eastern Siberia. The area is rumored to have great mineral and petrolium resources, offers space, something China needs, and is right next door. Western Russia would have much longer supply likes than China. Come to think of it, seems like an interesting scenario for a novel.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:58 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Come to think of it, seems like an interesting scenario for a novel.

Someone tell Tom Clancy!

Oh wait.
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Someone tell Tom Clancy!

Oh wait.

I know, I just re-read it last week. That was humor. Or sarcasm. Or something I'm not too good at, I guess.

Great book, BTW.
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Ever heard of Parachute drops? Hum V's?





they don't control a damn thing. they only control what they own. not the border. and the Chinesse can fly through and drop bombs on every bridge on our border, only leaving one open for them to come through, then what?

crazy you people think the Cartel can stop an offical effin Army???....LOL..WOW

this ain't Grand Theft Auto GTA.......sheesh...
Ever heard of NORAD and yeah I think that the Drug cartels are better and are used to getting to firefights and would have a huge advantage of knowing the region they control better then China and had firefights with rival cartels the Mexican militarily and the police that drive up armoured Humvees and already but the GM built ones since China owns the rights to the Hummer brand and we moved on to MRAPs and Stryker's and we got alot of surplus unarmoured M998 Humvees sitting around on alot of base that have been parked and used for parts and or auctioned off.

the Humvee it came out in 1984-85 plus on of the major weakness for the HMMWV has proven to be its size, which has limited its deployment in Afghanistan because it is too large for many forms of air transport but that is the unarmoured M1114 and M1116 versions.

During the 1988 Beijing Defence Exhibition, AM General presented a M998 4x4 to the People's Liberation Army.[SIZE=2][3][/SIZE] The PLA didn't show much interest to the vehicle before the events of Operation Desert Storm, which made them interested in studying the vehicle.[SIZE=2][3][/SIZE] The Chinese petroleum industry purchased Hummers through American commerical sources in the mid-1990s.[SIZE=2][3][/SIZE] This provided the Chinese auto makers with an opportunity to examine the vehicle closely and for reverse-engineering.[SIZE=2][4][/SIZE] Later in 2003, the EQ2050 made its debut in a car show after a prototype was made in 2002.[SIZE=2][3][/SIZE] The vehicle became the preferred candidate in 2004 with 57 vehicles sent to the PLA for trails from 2004 to 2006.[SIZE=2][5][/SIZE] The first 100 EQ2050s were made with American-made parts.[SIZE=2][4][/SIZE] It passed design trails in 2006.[SIZE=2][5][/SIZE] EQ2050s were then delivered to PLA special forces unit in the Guangzhou Military Region.[SIZE=2][2][/SIZE] It's known as Mengshi in Chinese.

The EQ2050 is based on an imported AM General Hummer H1 chassis. The DFM EQ2050 is powered by a Dongfeng license-built Cummins EQB150-20 110 kW/2,700R turbo-charged diesel, but it can also be fitted with the U.S.-made V8 diesel originally designed for Humvee.

Both vehicles have a 5-speed gear box and a 2-speed transfer box. They are both four-wheel drive with independent suspensions and central inflating system. The EQ2050 also has re-designed lights and radiator to make itself look different from the original Humvee.


I mean the H1 is the Civilian version sold here and M998 surplus 1980s version at Military surplus auctions are something you can go and bid on and just the M998 are not street legal with out some modifications plus a Duce and half or M939 5 ton 6x6 is what I would buy over the Humvee because park it at the supermarket and you can spot it with ease and no one would mistake it for a fiat 500 or smart car.
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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China has no capability of moving an army across the Pacific ocean if it were resisted by the US navy. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel for the USN. I'm quite sure that the US attack subs alone could sink as many ships as the Chinese cared to put to sea. There is also no way the USA would allow the Chinese to place an army anywhere in this hemisphere. That would be completely contrary to the Monroe Doctrine and just would not be allowed for any reason what so ever.
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:03 AM
 
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What can a Cartel of 200-300 drug dealers do against an organized Chinese Army of thousands with tanks, jets, AK's and all types of hand to hand combat skills?

please tell me?

They'll be wiped out in 24 hours, Cartel is too reckless to go up against a NATION. if they were that bad they would take over America by now.
first the cartels have far more than 2-300 dealers, their network includes rhousands of cartel soldiers, why do you think the mexican army and police are having troubles stopping the drug cartels?

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Ever heard of Parachute drops? Hum V's?

they don't control a damn thing. they only control what they own. not the border. and the Chinesse can fly through and drop bombs on every bridge on our border, only leaving one open for them to come through, then what?

crazy you people think the Cartel can stop an offical effin Army???....LOL..WOW

this ain't Grand Theft Auto GTA.......sheesh...
no i dont think the cartels can stop an army, but they can slow it down and cause many casualties. ever hear of guerrilla warfare? its actually a very effective strategy.

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For all we know that have already moved into position with battleships, personel, etcc....OUR MEDIA ain't telling us jack, so how do we know what's going on down there?
you obviously have no idea what china has in naval assets, or air lift capacity, or have any idea of basic strategy. china has a small navy, with mostly coastal and river boats. they do have an aircraft carrier that they bought from russia, and they have a few other capital ships, but for the most part their navy is not deep water capable. in fact just one of the pacific fleets the US has deployed would essentially give the chinese navy a one way ticket to davey jones locker in fairly short order. and as i have said before, NO COUNTRY on the planet has the air lift capability that the US has, russia comes kind of close, if you add in the air lift assets of china, japan, germany, france, and britain.

china would be hard pressed to move the needed equipment, supplies, and soldiers, let alone the weaponry needed, half way through mexico, even if mexico was helping them. besides we would know chinese troop movements, and be ready for them, and if you thought the bombing of iraq in both gulf wars was awesome, just wait until the US military unleashes the firepower needed to crush the chinese army. chances are that mexico wont helo the chinese because they know just waht kind of ruin the US would level on mexico to stop the chinese.
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Why conquer that which you can purchase with its own money tokens?
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:09 AM
 
Location: North America
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Why would China invade the US?

Why would Al-qaeda invade us on 911?

Al Qaeda didn't invade the US on 9/11. Just like Japan didn't invade us on 12/7/41. we were attacked. Learn the difference.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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What can a Cartel of 200-300 drug dealers do against an organized Chinese Army of thousands with tanks, jets, AK's and all types of hand to hand combat skills?

please tell me?

They'll be wiped out in 24 hours, Cartel is too reckless to go up against a NATION. if they were that bad they would take over America by now.
War on drug 40 years later and well they seem to have money and police influence and they have Gold plated AKs and there are more than 3000 and they literally are fighting in a on going war with the Mexican police and Army other rival cartels and are trained by special forces that the U.S. trained to fight the cartels.

Some switched sides and figured that the war on drugs was a losing battle or they left cause of the money they would be paid and they drive in Convoys of up armoured GM designed 3/4 ton SUVs and they know military tactics and have been under fire which is why China is not going to be as effective since they never fought a recent war during their life and they take try an move though and take on the 3 Largest countries in North America.

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Old 07-12-2013, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Earth
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They wouldn't have to mount a land invasion. All they'd have to do would be to stop buying our debt and to demand immediate repayment, whether in money, territory, or the US nuclear arsenal. Given the sort of mentality in the US today, the US might surrender like France did in 1940, or would cede territory on the west coast.
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