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Old 10-10-2013, 11:21 PM
 
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Liberals want to obscure the religious nature of Christmas because they represent thw Democrat Party and such socialist oriented groups oppose religion because bel.
Ief in a higher power is a threat to there god-the state.
Once again you prove you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Were the pilgrims liberals? They outlawed Christmas.
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:27 PM
 
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I say Merry Christmas. But if Bill O'Reilly or Slanthead were there I'd say Happy Holidays and I'd say it loud and I'd say it proud. And then I'd have me some dijon mustard
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Harrier is considering saying "Happy Kwanzaa" this season.
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:33 PM
 
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I used to say happy holidays... Until I met someone that someone that doesn't even celebrate the New Year.

So then I asked everyone if they are enjoying winter, but it didn't take long to find someone who hates winter.

Now I just say "you too".
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Lone Star State to Peach State
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I wear my dinner plate size Star of David necklace and smile during Christmas.
When they say " merry Christmas" I say " happy Hanukkah"
They get flustered,we smile, and the exchange is pleasant. Not a problem.
This year though it's a bit different.
Hanukkah won't even be near the
usual Christmas rush greeting time.

It doesn't bother me when strangers greet me with merry Christmas. I'm just happy they greet me.
What bothers me is the people who celebrate Christmas that complain about having to say happy holidays.
AND don't get me started about those Whiney bastard pundits on talk radio and talk/news tv.
Oh vey!!!!
ITS the CHRISTMAS SEASON DAMNIT!!!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!
It's The Lord baby Jesus birthday.. Give him his day!!! It's just one day!!!

Oh no, I' m already stressing, I need a huge candy cane to calm me down!
Who has the ticker? How many more shopping days left, when is the first Christmas ad coming out on t.v. Oh wait we have to go through Black Friday, Black Cyber, all that commercialism......
Wait, what was the original question????
Oh yeah. No, I don't feel obligated to say happy holidays.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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If it's Hanukkah, and I'm pretty sure the person is Jewish, I say "Happy Hanukkah".
If it's Christmas Eve/Christmas Day, and I'm pretty sure the person is Jewish, I say "Merry Christmas".
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:14 AM
 
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There is no misunderstanding. Plain and simply, you have the right to belong to any religion which you desire to join, just as I do. Your choice of religion has zero influence on my choice of religion, nor does it have any influence on the way I express my religion. In short, you have freedom of religion when it comes to your personal choice, but you do not have freedom from religion if I choose to express my views in public. I'm not attempting to convert you to my religion (admittedly, I don't actually belong to any specific religion) by expressing my religious beliefs, I'm merely expressing my religious beliefs. By the same token, if you greet me with what is considered a religious greeting in your chosen faith, it doesn't mean you are trying to convert me. It merely means that you are expressing your religious beliefs in your greeting.

Sorry, the whole freedom from religion argument is bogus. It is completely contradictory to the central thesis that was behind the creation of the United States, which is that all people have equal rights. In order to have freedom from religion, Person A's right to not be exposed to Person B's religion is given more weight than Person B's right to express their religious belief.
Or you could simply employ such illustrious abilities as: logic, reasoning, and general comprehension.

Here, let me help you out:

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Freedom from religion does not mean, as some mistakenly seem to claim, being free from seeing religion in society. No one has the right not to see churches, religious expression, and other examples of religious belief in our nation — and those who advocate freedom of religion do not claim otherwise.
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In short, you have freedom of religion when it comes to your personal choice, but you do not have freedom from religion if I choose to express my views in public.
See how we are saying the same thing?
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:21 AM
 
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Liberals want to obscure the religious nature of Christmas because they represent thw Democrat Party and such socialist oriented groups oppose religion because bel.
Ief in a higher power is a threat to there god-the state.
Nah, liberals simply don't live in some idealistic bubble where everyone is the same. Thus, they realize that not everybody is Christian - something that is perfectly acceptable in this nation despite the attempts of a few people who are enamored with the idea of a Christian theocracy. Thus, it's a sign of respect to be sympathetic to ALL people. Naturally, those that have enjoyed unequivocal preference due to history, tradition, and simple demographic size, feel that there are subversive elements at work.

I don't think there is anyone who wants to obscure the religious nature of Christmas by simply acknowledging that other religions celebrate their holy days at around the same time.

You may also notice that Happy Holidays is, who woulda thunk, nothing other than Happy Holy Days. Clearly, if someone was trying to obscure the religious nature of Christmas, you'd think they would come up with something that doesn't include the word "Holy."

Even more bizarre is that some Christians would be offended when somebody wishes the Happy Holy Days - is that just a lack of thought and only an attempt at desperately being outraged about something? Anything?

Finally, if you embrace the idea of capitalism you MUST acknowledge that business owners, logically, will do whatever avoids offending potential customers. Thus, they opt to be inclusive rather than exclusive.

Ah, that must be the Christmas spirit as it is interpreted by Cafeteria Christian around the nation. I INSIST on being personally acknowledged for MY religious belief. Otherwise I am going to be offended!

How about one simply embraces the sentiment behind well-wishes? Whatever verbal form they take, the thought remains the same: Enjoy your Holy Days, be happy, be merry, spread love.

Can't have that, now can we?
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Lone Star State to Peach State
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If it's Christmas Eve/Christmas Day, and I'm pretty sure the person is Jewish, I say "Merry Christmas".
I see you know what malevolence means?
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:47 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Is this the annual "there's a war on Christmas" thread? It came a bit early this year.
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