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Originally Posted by Ringo1
So stupid to blame Obama for this. I really can no longer take your posts seriously.
The Obama's are actually a great example of family life. 2 kids born in marriage and no rumblings I've heard of any affairs. He may be the face of a "scary, new America" but his own family is straight out the 1950s.
Uh...yes it is. It's pretty well understood that the key to success in educational and economic attainment is a strong familial unit, including 2 parent homes.
Not sure what would compel you to think otherwise in the face of so many studies that contradict your viewpoint??
Being in a two 2 household does not ensure what you listed. A child could witness domestic violence, which could take a toll on his mental health. What about divorce?
Keep in mind that out of wedlock births do not essentially mean absent fathers. A father doesn't have to be married to a kid's mother in order to be involved in his kid's life.
I never realized those young people having kids and in need of assistance are considered rich because they are on welfare. Does that mean people who are not in need of any welfare is now considered poor?
We have actually created a society that siphons off by force, from those that have lived an adult life for some time, to make it the easiest time in US history for the young and unmarried to start families and automatically get a paycheck.
what do you say to the conservative males on here who would label you as a detriment to society, as some already have on here labeled single mothers that way?
I disagree here, no one suggested single moms who take care of their children are detriment to society. What women have to consider is in the end they're the ones that will get pregnant. If the guy walks who usually (at least there was a time when this was very true) has the more caring heart to pick up the pieces and carry on and finish raising the child or children.
The poster is doing the best with what was handed to her and she's not asking society to do a damn thing, she and her daughter should be very proud people. Hopefully some day the father sees his daughter had a better role model than he was ever able to be.
Shame on him for at least not paying to support the child he helped create.
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Originally Posted by Tuna Meowt
Okay, Miss Smith -- you'll get a $1000 check for the first child you don't have, and then another $500 for each additional child you don't have.
We have actually created a society that siphons off by force, from those that have lived an adult life for some time, to make it the easiest time in US history for the young and unmarried to start families and automatically get a paycheck.
Easiest time in US history? Well I guess those young people struggling to put food on the table for their family should be thankful for all their government riches.
Uh...yes it is. It's pretty well understood that the key to success in educational and economic attainment is a strong familial unit, including 2 parent homes.
Not sure what would compel you to think otherwise in the face of so many studies that contradict your viewpoint??
What makes you assume "out of wedlock" always = single-parent home? That's where your logic falters.
Hint: People can have children together, stay together, and STILL not be married. Thus, two parent home. These days it isn't all that uncommon to do so, and I dare you to produce a study saying that piece of paper makes any difference in the child's well-being (assuming the parents don't split up).
Hint: People can have children together, stay together, and STILL not be married. Thus, two parent home. These days it isn't all that uncommon to do so, and I dare you to produce a study saying that piece of paper makes any difference in the child's well-being (assuming the parents don't split up).
Indeed. I know a couple that did just that, had two kids and *never* got married. They did eventually split up (dad got custody of the kids), but despite the fact that they weren't married, they were together twice as long as my first wife and I were.
What is "legitimate" really? People can produce and raise children together, whether they are legally married or not... does that still bother you, just because they are "illegitimate?" Sheesh, how antiquated.
Indeed. I know a couple that did just that, had two kids and *never* got married. They did eventually split up (dad got custody of the kids), but despite the fact that they weren't married, they were together twice as long as my first wife and I were.
Wait, what??!! Didn't you know that if you lack a contract from the government, your relationship is nonexistent and your children will be losers? Apparently, that's what some people here seem to believe! Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure most of them (with this mindset) are politically conservative - and I thought liberals were the ones who liked "big daddy gubment" telling them what to do or not do? You'd think the conservatives would be applauding this, but clearly they also can't distinguish between SINGLE and unmarried vs PARTNERED and unmarried. Tough concept, I know.
And yes, I realize the majority of unmarried parents are probably single - but that also doesn't mean the child's father is completely out of the picture. Hasn't anyone heard of shared custody? I know plenty of divorced/single men who play active roles in their children's lives, some of whom even have 50/50 custody AND pay child support on top of that. It's not as common as we'd like, but does still exist.
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