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Old 01-05-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Isn't this special! Nothing like educating the public about idiotic, uniformed, nonsense!

Huckabee is irresponsible by spewing this on public airwaves!

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Fox News host Mike Huckabee on Saturday warned that a California girl who was declared brain dead after tonsil surgery last month could lead to situations like Nazi death camps and forced abortions in China if the hospital took her off life support
. - See more at: Mike Huckabee: Brain dead girl could lead to Nazi death camps, forced abortions | Crooks and Liars

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"Every life has value and worth," Huckabee told his viewers on Saturday. "There is no such person who is disposable, one whose life has been deemed by others to be less than others and therefore expendable, I can't share that."

He continued: "The road that starts that way in deciding that some lives have less value and are unworthy of protection, that leads to a culture that tolerates the undeserved killing of over 55 million unborn children in this country. It leads to China's birth policy that limits the number of children for a family and enforces forced abortion if they deviate from the state-determined ideal."
- See more at: Mike Huckabee: Brain dead girl could lead to Nazi death camps, forced abortions | Crooks and Liars
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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Where does Huckabee propose we get the resources to keep dead bodies from decomposing and going to that paradise he supposedly believes in?
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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Where does Huckabee propose we get the resources to keep dead bodies from decomposing and going to that paradise he supposedly believes in?
Tax cuts for the rich, duh.
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:57 AM
 
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No wander we have conflict with comments like these. It like many other things are a legal matter and we have right to petition the courts.
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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Pull the plug and file a big malpractice lawsuit
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Old 01-05-2014, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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No wander we have conflict with comments like these. It like many other things are a legal matter and we have right to petition the courts.
There is no reason for the courts to allow prolongation of clearly futile care. No matter who pays for it, it does the deceased person no good and wastes resources. The legal profession needs to be educated.

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Old 01-05-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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Look, either that girl is legally dead or we have been harvesting organs for transplant from legally alive people. Can't have it both ways.

Since medicine has evolved to the point that it can keep a heart beating, brain death, diagnosed by total absence of brain waves, is the definition of death. This girl has no hope. She is nothing more than a corpse with blood circulating through it.

I don't believe that her mother is prepared for, or will want to see, what happens to her daughter's body during this.
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Old 01-05-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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Brain death is the irreversible end of brain activity (including involuntary activity necessary to sustain life) due to total necrosis of the cerebral neurons following loss of brain oxygenation. It should not be confused with a persistent vegetative state. Patients classified as brain-dead can have their organs surgically removed for organ donation. Even after brain death, the working of the heart might continue at a slow pace, but there will be no respiratory effort.
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This report was the basis for the Uniform Determination of Death Act, which is now the law in almost all fifty states. Today, both the legal and medical communities in the US use "brain death" as a legal definition of death, allowing a person to be declared legally dead even if life support equipment keeps the body's metabolic processes working.
Brain death - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-05-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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Medical ethicists worry Jahi's case threatens definition of death | www.ktvu.com
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:58 PM
 
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Brain damage, vegetative state, and coma are NOT the same as brain DEATH. Brain death is defined as the absence of ALL brain function - not just the parts of the brain that control our emotions, thoughts, and consciousness, but also the parts that control basic brain stem reflexes. The heart does not require input from the brain to beat, so Jahi's strong young heart continues to pump. The brain is also not involved in spinal reflexes, so people that are brain dead can have reflex movements of their limbs. You do not recover from brain DEATH, ever. Once we declare someone brain dead, there are dead.
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