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Old 02-26-2014, 09:11 AM
 
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The problem is if you don't know it was it stolen. If the car is missing from yout driveway there is good chance it was stolen, if the TV is missing off the wall there is good chance it was stolen. Not many people use a weapon daily or store them in an area they are going to know it is missing.
God -

Look its your gun. If you didnt' secure it, it was stolen, and you didn't know

It should be YOUR ass in the sling for being a dumbass.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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If your gun was never registered or a background check done, you don't need to report it because they never knew you had it.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:14 AM
 
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There isn't enough information about the provision to make a complete judgement call or argument.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:19 AM
 
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If your gun was never registered or a background check done, you don't need to report it because they never knew you had it.
How else will you get it back if the gun is recovered? Does it bother you that your gun was stolen and just might be used in another crime?
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:20 AM
 
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I don't have a problem of guns per se, I have a problem with our inability to track weapons.

if you use a weapon in a crime, it should be really easy to track you down.

1) all guns manufactured are required to have a unique metal signature (radio isotope maybe?) that is assigned at factory
2) Guns registration is tracked from factory to person
3) all gun powder is similar tracked, regardless where/how you buy it or make your own bullets (shouldn't be that hard, less than 100 companies make gun powder).


Failure to register a weapon, minimum 10 years federal prison


but here is the kicker on sales. . easy

you may sell a weapon to whomever (as long as they have the right/privilege). As owner of the weapon you are responsible for all violations and accidents that occur with said weapon

1) if your firearm is stolen, without evidence of being secured, a crime committed with the weapon puts you as the accomplice
2) if a family member uses the weapon in a mass killing event, you are a accomplice
3) if your child gains access to a unsecured firearm and causes harm (to himself) you are a accomplice in manslaughter
4) if a family member uses the weapon to kill him/herself, you are a accomplice to manslaughter


Easy.

No more gun problems then.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:21 AM
 
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How else will you get it back if the gun is recovered? Does it bother you that your gun was stolen and just might be used in another crime?
Reporting it stolen won't stop it from being used in a crime.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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I don't have a problem of guns per se, I have a problem with our inability to track weapons.

if you use a weapon in a crime, it should be really easy to track you down.

1) all guns manufactured are required to have a unique metal signature (radio isotope maybe?) that is assigned at factory
2) Guns registration is tracked from factory to person
3) all gun powder is similar tracked, regardless where/how you buy it or make your own bullets (shouldn't be that hard, less than 100 companies make gun powder).


Failure to register a weapon, minimum 10 years federal prison


but here is the kicker on sales. . easy

you may sell a weapon to whomever (as long as they have the right/privilege). As owner of the weapon you are responsible for all violations and accidents that occur with said weapon

1) if your firearm is stolen, without evidence of being secured, a crime committed with the weapon puts you as the accomplice
2) if a family member uses the weapon in a mass killing event, you are a accomplice
3) if your child gains access to a unsecured firearm and causes harm (to himself) you are a accomplice in manslaughter
4) if a family member uses the weapon to kill him/herself, you are a accomplice to manslaughter


Easy.

No more gun problems then.
And if someone steals your car, crashes it into someone else killing the occupants, you are responsible for murder.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:25 AM
 
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Golly gee. I thought my door being kicked open was a great clue that my rifle had been stolen.
Well certainly that would be an indicator for you to look for other stolen merchandise but that is not how it happens all the time. For example I used to know where the keys were for numerous houses and would enter a lot of them without the homeowner being there, suppose I or one of workers stole a gun from one of those homes. It could be days, weeks or even months before the homeowner found out.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I doubt that you really know how they will treat you. Insurance companies get scammed all the time. How will they know you are not scamming them?

Why wouldn't you want to? You won't get your guns back ever without a report.

I think it is my civic duty to do so.Some Respondents are round here think my theft was juveniles. Just a recipe for disaster guns falling into the hands of trouble criminal juveniles.
I am not required to file a police report if I suffer property damage either, and yet my insurance carrier will pay if I file a claim (less my deductible of course). It is up to insurance adjusters to determine whether or not my claim is valid, and they do not require a police report to make that determination.

I would not get my firearms back even if I filed a police report. A police report would tell government that I own firearms and that is not acceptable. It is my civic duty to keep government completely ignorant in regard to the firearms I own.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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God -

Look its your gun. If you didnt' secure it, it was stolen, and you didn't know

It should be YOUR ass in the sling for being a dumbass.
A locked door is sufficient, matter of fact inside my home should be sufficient. You're trying to lay the blame of criminal act on the victim, if someone comes in and steals a bunch of jewelry and you don;t realize it fro 2 weeks are you to blame for not realizing it? Most people keep their weapons in a safe or locked gun cabinet but they aren't all going to be in there. It's not doing you any good in safe if you need it, most gun owners are going to have at least one weapon easily accessible but out of sight.
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