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The President never said cut household spending to afford health care. A family of three with an income of $36,000 could sign up for a bronze plan for $750 per year. Two 30 year olds could sign up for $1800 per year and a single person with the same income would be about $2400 per year. Is this excessive? All the President said was that people should consider what would happen if they didnt have insurance.
Everyone was supposed to have insurance, isnt that the point of ACA and spending $1T+ ?
The President never said cut household spending to afford health care. A family of three with an income of $36,000 could sign up for a bronze plan for $750 per year. Two 30 year olds could sign up for $1800 per year and a single person with the same income would be about $2400 per year. Is this excessive? All the President said was that people should consider what would happen if they didnt have insurance.
Well $6K-$12K out of pocket WITH insurance doesn't help the people that don't have $6K-$12K in their bank so why bother with insurance at all ?
Remember these are the people that can't afford the premiums.
Where do you think they are going to get the deductible/out of pocket money cause Uncle Sam isn't sending them a check for that part.
Lol! The very same conservatives who were always howling "If these deadbeats can afford cell phones and fancy manicures, they can afford health insurance!!" are now complaining.
What an about-face!
Well, it did come from Obama, so now it's something to whine and complain bitterly about....even though they were saying the same thing just a short time ago.
Yeah, the nerve of people not wanting to pay more taxes..
Werent we told people needed internet in order to find jobs? Now all of a sudden its not important. Is this an admission there are no jobs?
A family of 3 making $36,000/year can get health insurance for less than $100/month after subsidies. Nobody said health insurance would be free. Why are Republicans now complaining because there's no free ride?
And subsides need to be paid for with higher taxes..
I don't think anyone that can write the check for "luxury cars, vacation homes, and private school tuition" are having to wonder about how they are going to pay for healthcare.
However, a large portion of the population will see or has already seen the line item expense for "health insurance premiums" in their own household budget increase dramatically. Couple that with new, higher deductibles and OOP expenses, and you don't need a degree from Wharton to know there's trouble ahead.
You should complain about health insurance taking up a larger portion of your discretionary income.
No, I never complain about my income or health coverage. I have a grip on reality. If it goes up I deal with it. Life is not that complicated.
Barry doesn't care if you suffer, folks. His plan isn't really Obamacare, but for you to suffer and be bankrupt and have nothing. That's his ultimate plan.
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Originally Posted by shiftymh
Yes. Cut your family vacations, Christmas gifts for your kids, college tuition and retirement savings just to subsidize your comrade's health insurance.
Since Barry is not committed to improving the economy, of course, he doesn't want us to have any joy or fun.
Not exactly. A man might need a vehicle to get him to and from work. He might even need to use that vehicle to do his job. A man might also need internet and a *gasp* smartphone to do his job because he doesn't clock in at 8am and clock out at 5PM with an hour lunch break in between. Some of the "Non-essentials" and actually essentials for a lot of people who have to work for a living.
Nope, I don't buy that for a second.
A car is not a need thanks to public transportation and the myriad of transportation options available (ride share, cycling, taxis, coach bus). A car is a luxury that most people choose to use because it makes their life easier.
Internet and smart phones are not needs either. Internet is most likely available at your place of employment. If you are unemployed there are public computers available at public libraries or your local department of labor (where they will help you find a job). I don't have a smart phone currently, so I don't buy that at all.
My first comment stands. Food, clothing, water, shelter, pre-pay phone for emergencies, and basic health care.. that's about it as far as modern day essentials. Everything else is not necessary.
Barry doesn't care if you suffer, folks. His plan isn't really Obamacare, but for you to suffer and be bankrupt and have nothing. That's his ultimate plan.
Since Barry is not committed to improving the economy, of course, he doesn't want us to have any joy or fun.
The average Tea Party-Conservative-Republican has no idea how much their health insurance costs per month whether its paid for by Medicare, Tricare, VA, Medicaid, Private Insurance,etc.. they have absolutely no clue. Many have never bought insurance and most have even checked out Healthcare.Gov. They are pretty much as blind as the elected Republicans.
A car is not a need thanks to public transportation and the myriad of transportation options available (ride share, cycling, taxis, coach bus). A car is a luxury that most people choose to use because it makes their life easier.
Internet and smart phones are not needs either. Internet is most likely available at your place of employment. If you are unemployed there are public computers available at public libraries or your local department of labor (where they will help you find a job). I don't have a smart phone currently, so I don't buy that at all.
My first comment stands. Food, clothing, water, shelter, pre-pay phone for emergencies, and basic health care.. that's about it as far as modern day essentials. Everything else is not necessary.
So what? When others suggested people cut back BEFORE ACA was the law of the land, all we heard was left wingers whine and cry because people on welfare need their internet to find jobs so they can stop collecting.
Now all of a sudden, it doesnt matter..
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