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Talking down on them and telling them "you're a problem" isn't going to work either. Making stupid assumptions does not work either. Establishing common ground is more likely to get some success. However, I don't see anyone trying that.
All too easy. While the statistics say that 50 percent of murders in the USA are Black on Black, no one seems to consider why. Why are so many neighborhoods that are majority Black rife with crime? Or even better, why are middle-upper class areas that are predominantly Black(such as Bowie,Md and Missouri City,Tx) have low crime rates?
Okay. You found TWO black towns that don't have a violent crime problem.
As it has been proven, shame doesn't work. Shame isn't going to make someone vote for you. Trying to shame someone is only going to anger them and make the resist more.
As I mentioned before, why not try establishing a common ground.
Okay. You found TWO black towns that don't have a violent crime problem.
My point is valid.
Whether I found two Black towns or 100, can you refute anything I've said?
Actually, I really don't care what point you were trying to convey. My point was to show something very flawed. Have you asked WHY so many predominantly Black areas have so many problems? Have you ever asked why Bowie and Missouri City DON'T have problems? I'm trying to get you to think critically, as I do.
All too easy. While the statistics say that 50 percent of murders in the USA are Black on Black, no one seems to consider why. Why are so many neighborhoods that are majority Black rife with crime? Or even better, why are middle-upper class areas that are predominantly Black(such as Bowie,Md and Missouri City,Tx) have low crime rates?
Au contraire! Black is only one common denominator. However, the other common denominator that spans ghettos, barrios and other ethnic, lower socio-economic conclaves is poverty and along with it, going hand-in-hand, are lack of education and lack of positive role models. Violent crime is not the sole purview of poor lacks by any means.
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Funny how some things never change -- here's a newspaper clipping from 1926 re: Chicago's murder rate -- but please note that Jacksonville, FL was worse.
Au contraire! Black is only one common denominator. However, the other common denominator that spans ghettos, barrios and other ethnic, lower socio-economic conclaves is poverty and along with it, going hand-in-hand, are lack of education and lack of positive role models. Violent crime is not the sole purview of poor lacks by any means.
Granted, those are old links, but this stuff has been known to happen.
Violent crime isn't the only purview of poor Blacks. It happens among poor Hispanic people, and some poor White people. I've been jumped and beaten up by middle class White kids before, so I have personal experience. What I was talking about is this. So many people want to point to being Black, and only that, as a reason for crime. Basically, people are trying to say "Blacks are a problem", rather than, there are alot of problems among poor Blacks that results in violent crime. It is basically "They do that because that is what Blacks do, they are a violent race". And I would have to consider that their own solutions might be something like "exclude Blacks from society" or "kick Blacks out". Being Black, I have to consider that such persons might want to do that to me.
Look at who is shooting who. Its the black communities. What liberals want is for us to give up our rights to own guns to fix a black problem. Its the degeneration of the black culture and they want us to give up our money in the form of taxes and guns to name a few things to try to fix their decay.
I have to make my rebuttal. Gun politics have been racial for a very long time. From the very beginning, Blacks were prohibited from having guns. The roots of banning guns have alot to do with fear of Black people. In the slave days, Blacks were prohibited from owning guns. What was the fear? People were afraid of slave rebellions. When slavery was ended, there were attempts to disarm Blacks. This attitude was around long before any kind of degeneration. And the degeneration is not with the whole Black population. It is specifically with those who are part of the underclass. I had to call that part out because when you say "Black culture", I have to ask "which part"? Brian McKnight is part of Black culture. He's no hood rat. So is Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Tavis Smiley, Bill Cosby. Definitely not hood rats, definitely not degenerative people. Li'l Wayne is degenerative.
In my opinion, gun politics is a game. And this is not just liberals. Ronald Reagan implemented strict gun laws when he was governor of California. Why? The Black Panther Party marched on the streets of Sacramento with guns in their hands. They didn't shoot anyone, didn't hurt anyone. They were Black men marching down the streets in solidarity with their rights to defend themselves and bear arms. What happened? Reagan and many other people got scared. There has been a big fear of the Black man whenever he has decided to stand up for himself. The crime and degeneration taking place among a select segment of the Black population just gives more justification for some.
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