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im curious. say someone claims that israel has a right to exist as a country. say that person also opposes israels actions against hamas that causes collateral civilian casualties.
what does that person expect israel to do in response to rocket/terror attacks?
what does that person expect israel to do in response to rocket/terror attacks?
Israel can do whatever Israel wants. They're a sovereign nation, and can deal with external threats as they see fit.
Doesn't mean that I have to fund them with my tax dollars, though. And I don't want to fund Palestine, either. There will never, ever, ever be peace in the Middle East. Let's quit pretending that there will be, and leave them alone to massacre each other to their hearts content.
Israel never wastes an opportunity to retaliate. Palestine never wastes an opportunity to waste an opportunity. The only reason America cares about the area is the disproportional influence of one religious group and the doomsday mythology of another group. Both are silly reasons to send billions of tax dollars to two groups bent on destroying each other.
Hamas rocket attacks on israel?
Been doing that over a year
The world does not have a problem with that
Only when Israel reacts do they have an issue to discuss with Israel
Every time a rocket is launched @ telavev the world wants to know what is wrong with Israel getting in the way of Hama's missiles
Doesn't mean that I have to fund them with my tax dollars, though. And I don't want to fund Palestine, either. There will never, ever, ever be peace in the Middle East. Let's quit pretending that there will be, and leave them alone to massacre each other to their hearts content.
But I bet you are willing to fork over your tax dollars to fund millions of abortions, right?
There CAN be peace, ONLY as long as the "Palestinians" quit going on the offensive and launching unprovoked attacks. Its as simple as that. If they could just be civil, then the Israeli's would most likely welcome them with open arms. Problem is, there are far too many terrorists in their camp, whose entire lives are devoted to the hell-bent destruction of the Jewish people. THATS where the problem lies, and you know it. I dont ever recall Israel ever launching an unprovoked attack on their neighbors, do you? Israel only defends herself. All the nations surrounding Israel have made desperate attempts to wipe them off the earth. And people support these douchebags?!?! They support terrorism and people who wish to commit genocide? Classy. There can easily be peace in the region, but only if Israel's mortal enemies would just shut the frick up and live and let live. All offensive actions result in defensive actions. If those people would just realize this and revolt against the terrorists rather than support them, there would be peace.
One has to wonder, with the few that have landed in Egypt why hasn't Egypt fired a few back? When one lands in Turkey from Syria, Turkey has no problem blowing up a city block. The UN says nothing and NATO sends Turkey a American version of the Iron Dome. Go figure.
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One has to wonder, with the few that have landed in Egypt why hasn't Egypt fired a few back? When one lands in Turkey from Syria, Turkey has no problem blowing up a city block. The UN says nothing and NATO sends Turkey a American version of the Iron Dome. Go figure.
Probably the Egyptian leaders would like to retaliate, but rank-and-file Egyptians are fundamentalist Muslims who would like to see Israel destroyed, or at least hounded. The leaders don't want to be seen as pro-Israel in a time of such instability and turbulence.
But I bet you are willing to fork over your tax dollars to fund millions of abortions, right?
There CAN be peace, ONLY as long as the "Palestinians" quit going on the offensive and launching unprovoked attacks.
1) This has nothing to do with abortion, which incidentally I do not want to see funded with taxpayer money. The only reason you could bring abortion into this is because you realize your foundation for this debate is made of clay.
2) Just because I do not support Palestine or Hamas does not mean that I MUST support what Israel does. This is not a "you are with us or against us" situation. Israel defends itself, sure. But they also provoke Palestine as often as they can with their settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. They keep their expansion promises about as well as America kept theirs to the Indians. They also elect the most hawkish leaders possible, who goad the Palestinians at every opportunity.
At the end of the day, we gain nothing from supporting either side. And if we quit them both, it would send a message to both countries that we don't think they are capable of solving their problems. Perhaps that might spur them to action better than sending both of them billions in aid so they can shoot rockets at each other.
im curious. say someone claims that israel has a right to exist as a country. say that person also opposes israels actions against hamas that causes collateral civilian casualties.
what does that person expect israel to do in response to rocket/terror attacks?
But don't you see that this is the wrong question. It assumes that because a country has the right to exist it also has the right to beat the brains out of the weaker nation, no matter if the damage is way way out of proportion to the threatened or real injury. And to allow for the deaths and maiming and psychological lifetime damage of hundreds of thousands of children is unconscionable if there are far far far fewer victims on one's "side". I might add, because I know it will come up: It is totally and completely besides the point that Hamas shoots from a heavily populated area, or that the adults vote (usually afraid not to) for Hamas, or anything else having to do with Hamas. It is also irrelevant that Israel was not the original aggressor and is defending itself. The point is that the defense is genocidal in proportion.
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The UN says nothing and NATO sends Turkey a American version of the Iron Dome. Go figure.