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Religion was not a root cause, most of the leaders and either side were not even members of their ethnic groups religions, they were communists, strict communists, old hold outs form the Yugoslav era. The war was more about ethnic and nationalistic ideals than religion, but as the article in the link shows, it can be impossible sometimes to separate ethnicity from religion. However, religion was not a root cause of the Bosnian conflict except for the most extreme types, which would include supporters coming from Greece, Russia, Iran, and Hezbollah, but even the US military had its share of Christian fundamentalists thinking we are in some religious war.
And that is the big difference, Hamas has claims it is religious based in nature, not even nationalism. But in my opinion Hamas is not even about religion, just about the age old need to maintain power.
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Point is that there is evil in all religions. When you consider Jerusalem is the home city for their religion I can understand their anger, but not condone killing over it.
Actually, there is evil by those who want obtain and maintain power. States have committed horrific crimes against humanity for no religious reason at all. However, there is one common trait among all, and that is the need to obtain and/or maintain power.
Religion was not a root cause, most of the leaders and either side were not even members of their ethnic groups religions, they were communists, strict communists, old hold outs form the Yugoslav era. The war was more about ethnic and nationalistic ideals than religion, but as the article in the link shows, it can be impossible sometimes to separate ethnicity from religion. However, religion was not a root cause of the Bosnian conflict except for the most extreme types, which would include supporters coming from Greece, Russia, Iran, and Hezbollah, but even the US military had its share of Christian fundamentalists thinking we are in some religious war.
And that is the big difference, Hamas has claims it is religious based in nature, not even nationalism. But in my opinion Hamas is not even about religion, just about the age old need to maintain power.
Actually, there is evil by those who want obtain and maintain power. States have committed horrific crimes against humanity for no religious reason at all. However, there is one common trait among all, and that is the need to obtain and/or maintain power.
Good try, but ethnic cleansing by Orthodox Christians of Muslims did occur, and was the topic of the link I posted. Read about ethnicity:
Why blame Israel for trying to defend itself? If they wanted to kill innocent people they could easily have done better. They attacked Hamas rocket launching areas, it just so happens Hamas put those areas in high density populated areas, most of which were innocent children and elders. No way Israel is to blame for their deaths.
It was Muslims that were forced out. It wasn't race, or drug users, it was religion.
Not one single link you provide mentions anything regarding Orthodox Christians ethnically cleansing.
So please, provide a reference for your claim.
Funny how you concentrated on Serbs, but left out the Muslims and Catholics who were doing the same things to each other, your own link goes states things like the Muslim Bosniaks cleansing out the Croats.
Provided you probably never even been to the place, know anyone from there, nor ever even cared much for the situation until you needed at this moment, I doubt you really no much if anything regarding the conflict. Your own lack of understanding your own links proves this.
You probably had no clue that each of the armies involved contained a mixture of everyone in the conflict, the Bosnian and Herzegovinian army had Croats and Serbs in it, and the Serb army had Bosnians and Croats in it, and the Croatian army had Bosnians and Serbs in it. This conflict was a nationalistic drive due to the scramble for resources and power after Yugoslavia broke apart.
One key difference despite it all is that the conflict is over, and there are no ongoing, never ending conflicts going on there, unlike the Middle East where it just does not stop no matter what happens. If it is not the ISIS today, it will be some other group tomorrow, whereas the Balkans are now an improving area, tourist destination, and with even Serbia being now a candidate country for EU membership.
Why blame Israel for trying to defend itself? If they wanted to kill innocent people they could easily have done better. They attacked Hamas rocket launching areas, it just so happens Hamas put those areas in high density populated areas, most of which were innocent children and elders. No way Israel is to blame for their deaths.
But they won't. And never have. Even those these people speak the same language and have the same culture.
Ever think about why that might be?
Meanwhile, Israel took in Jews purged from Arab Muslim lands.
I know this.
My point of irony was to the bleating finger pointers to put talk to action, which of course they cannot.
Those who should take responsibility and resolve the big time situation are those who will not; and it isn't Israel.
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I am blaming Israel for Israel's actions.