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Old 08-15-2014, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Except homosexuality ISN'T a choice. What if they decided they don't want to sell to people with mental retardation, that would be fine with you too I assume?[/quote
]What evidence do you have that homosexualty is NOT a choice ? thats what the pedifiles says
its not our choice
so we should except their behavour as well
Try a spell check. I think I deciphered your mess correctly though.

What evidence do you have that homosexuality is a choice?

 
Old 08-15-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No reason, I have many other choices. I'm not going to force them to change their beliefs.
I take it you have never wrote a bad review or ever complained to a friend about a place that gave you bad service?
 
Old 08-15-2014, 01:45 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Discriminating against customers is not just the business having practices not to ones liking. If a business chose to deny service to blacks, Asians or any group, it is discrimination, same with denying gays service.
Not quite. They are ethnic groups. Homosexuality is a behavior. Big difference.

And since this has to do with the religious beliefs of the shop owners, and knowing how much you who support the "gays" in cases like this like to quote Jesus, and use his words against the shop owners ("Do unto others ...," "Love your neighbor ...," and all the other "love" verses Leftists like to use), how about the verses that tell believers to "have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness," and the ones that tell us we are not to become "participants" in sinful behavior (such as making wedding gowns for two lesbians)? I guess you never heard of those verses.

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Having religious beliefs does not give one the right to use them to discriminate.
It absolutely does. It's called "discernment" and choosing not to involve ones self with the sinful deeds of others (as I noted above).
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The business owner should have left her religion at home and not involve it in her business practices.
So Jesus should not have told us that we should be a "light to the world?" I thought you liked Jesus' teachings? How can one be a "light to the world" if we leave our faith behind when we go out in the world to work? That isn't what Jesus taught. He taught that we should go out into the World and preach the Good News (and be a light to the world).

Being a Christian isn't a part time thing. If Jesus is truly in our hearts, he is their 24/7. We don't leave Jesus behind so that we don't offend somebody. If Christ offends you, that's just too bad.

You people astound me. You like your "warm fuzzy Jesus." You don't like his teachings on Christian living, avoiding sin, and spreading the Gospel (you don't want to hear that).
 
Old 08-15-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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one is a race the other is a lifestyle
Sexual orientation isn't a lifestyle. Being straight isn't a lifestyle.
 
Old 08-15-2014, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Back and Forth FRANCE
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one is a race the other is a lifestyle
bingo
 
Old 08-15-2014, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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bingo
So you think being straight is a lifestyle? I have a feeling you guys don't know what the word "lifestyle" means.
 
Old 08-15-2014, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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You people astound me. You like your "warm fuzzy Jesus." You don't like his teachings on Christian living, avoiding sin, and spreading the Gospel (you don't want to hear that).
well,

Matthew 19:3-9 (cf. Mark 10:2-12; Luke 16:18)

Jesus was asked whether divorce can properly be obtained for just any reason a person might have. He answered by appealing to the original marriage law.

Jesus taught that divorce itself, in general, is contrary to God's will. God made one man for one woman, indicating He did not intend for either to marry anyone else. He said they should cleave to one another and the two become one - there is no room in God's plan for a third party. God joins the man and woman, no human has the right to break that bond.
Further, whoever divorces his wife and marries again commits adultery (unless he does it because she has been guilty of fornication), and whoever marries her who has been divorced also commits adultery. (Mk. 10 adds that this rule also applies to the woman if she divorces her husband.)
To help understand the passage, read it with your name and your spouse's name, instead of "whosoever," etc.
Matthew 19:9 - If ____________ (you) divorces __________ (his wife), except for fornication, and marries another, _________________ (you) commits adultery; and whoever marries ___________ (her who is divorced) commits adultery."


Divorce, Remarriage: Who May Remarry according to the Bible?

Are you sure the bridal shop owner only sold dresses to the first time couples? Or she just discriminated against the gays and lesbians however she wanted to?
 
Old 08-15-2014, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Not quite. They are ethnic groups. Homosexuality is a behavior. Big difference..
huh?

Galatians 3:28

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

no?
 
Old 08-15-2014, 04:47 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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... the business has to show proof of sensitivity training/indoctrination.
What does "sensitivity training" accomplish, other than to generate revenue for gays and libs who promote it? I've refused to take it, even out of curiosity, several times when it was offered. How can you psychologically manipulate someone into believing something they don't in a few hours?
 
Old 08-15-2014, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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What does "sensitivity training" accomplish, other than to generate revenue for gays and libs who promote it? I've refused to take it, even out of curiosity, several times when it was offered. How can you psychologically manipulate someone into believing something they don't in a few hours?
Do you support it if the bridal owner refused service to a combat soldier who killed terrorists in foreign war then?
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