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Old 08-15-2014, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by JobZombie View Post
According to you, the qualifier of a successful business owner, excluding any and all other externalities hinges exclusively on the homosexual element and whether they get a dress or not.
False, a successful business doesn't discriminate against a customer with cash in hand.

 
Old 08-15-2014, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Are they tying you up and forcing you to go inside? They have the right run a business any way they wish.
And others have the right to voice their opinion as they wish. See now everyone is happy, right?
 
Old 08-15-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Here
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You realize we have a government structure that doesn't require the majority to approve the rights of the minorities.
Everybody wants homosexualized marriage, right, a sure thing, so you have noting to fear, worry or be concerned about. That you are afraid to put this to a vote that you cannot possibly lose demonstrates that you know deep down that everybody is not in favor or desires marriage homosexualized. Granting homosexuals a piece of paper, because that is all “marriage” is for the homosexual unlike normal folks. Either way the homosexual still loses and will forever be the outsider, the oddity or novelty.
 
Old 08-15-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Back and Forth FRANCE
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And others have the right to voice their opinion as they wish. See now everyone is happy, right?
Exactly! When some people/businesses voice their opinions liberals like to attack, boycott and insult!
 
Old 08-15-2014, 12:53 PM
 
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False, a successful business doesn't discriminate against a customer with cash in hand.
I do it everyday.

Sometimes it is not worth the problems.

A successful business makes many choices.
 
Old 08-15-2014, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Are they tying you up and forcing you to go inside? They have the right run a business any way they wish.
Exactly. So what are we arguing about? They have the right to run their business based on their immoral faith beliefs, the rest of us have the right to avoid spending our money there. Clearly, this is not working out in the business owner's favor.
 
Old 08-15-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Back and Forth FRANCE
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Exactly. So what are we arguing about? They have the right to run their business based on their immoral faith beliefs, the rest of us have the right to avoid spending our money there. Clearly, this is not working out in the business owner's favor.
It can.
Losing a confused minority will not hurt most well ran businesses. Most NORMAL people aren't going to stop shopping somewhere because a owner runs a business based on his/her own beliefs, and because a confused minority is upset that the business owners will not toss those beliefs aside.
 
Old 08-15-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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The "Gaystapo" strikes again. This time because the business refused to marry two lesbians on the property which was also the owner's residence. So now, besides a hefty fine, the business has to show proof of sensitivity training/indoctrination. This is going to happen again and again across Amerika people. Instead of just finding another place in which to conduct your business LGBTs are going to visit ALL private businesses in Amerika and force the issue. So when do churches stop having the right to refuse LGBT weddings is my question? And if you try to bow out for whatever the personal conviction and refuse to "fly the rainbow flag" you will be ostracized. Kind of reminds me of something that happened somewhere in the late 1930s/early 1940s........


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Old 08-15-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Why must people accept your restrictions when they are on your property?
I'm not sure what your argument is. Currently, discriminating against people based on their sexuality is not illegal in Pennsylvania. What the business owners did is immoral and in poor taste, but it's not illegal. They are facing the consequences of their restriction.

What I'm curious about is the number of their supporters who seem distraught that people would choose not to give the store their business. I disagree with the online bullying aspect (and I say that as someone who was professionally on the receiving end of thousands of horrific messages on social media and email directed to my employer and was sent to employer-paid for counseling due to the number of death threats. PS, this came from conservatives.). That's wrong. But if their business is to close due to their poor judgment, they hung themselves from their own rope.
 
Old 08-15-2014, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Originally Posted by JobZombie View Post
Everybody wants homosexualized marriage, right, a sure thing, so you have noting to fear, worry or be concerned about. That you are afraid to put this to a vote that you cannot possibly lose demonstrates that you know deep down that everybody is not in favor or desires marriage homosexualized. Granting homosexuals a piece of paper, because that is all “marriage” is for the homosexual unlike normal folks. Either way the homosexual still loses and will forever be the outsider, the oddity or novelty.
Do you have any idea how many people would still vote against interracial marriage? What about the rights of African Americans in general? What about women's rights? I know there are men out there that do not feel that women are equal to them.

And please, tell us about your life. Allow us, the general public, to pick it a part and all have a "vote" aka, a say in how you conduct your daily life. If a person isn't doing anything illegal, his or her life ISN'T ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS unless you are a friend or family member to the person. With that said, if you are so strongly against same-sex marriage and for a business owner's "right to choose whom they serve," then why aren't you on the front lines defending your stance? Your side is obviously losing the battle of equality...so do something about it. Build a court case. Use your knowledge of the law, study the constitution and PROVE to a judge WHY gay marriage should be illlegal. PROVE, using the law, not religion, WHY it should be legal for a business owner to only serve customers of his or her choosing. After all "the gays" did just that. Court cases were built citing irrefutable legal facts -- so they win their court cases and get the laws passed they want.

No matter how you skin this, this "business owner" specifically targeted gay people. No one on "your side" has responded to why she only cares about gay people. Why would she sell a dress to a divorced person seeking to remarry? Why would she sell a dress to an adulterer? Why would she sell a dress to someone who has had sex before marriage? Why would she sell a dress to someone who had a child out of wedlock? After all, some of these scenarios can come up in basic conversation, so she would instantly know that these people too are SINNERS! And after all, she's like Jesus Christ Jr, so she's obviously a super, mega, amazing, #1 Christian. ... And then people like you wonder why Christianity and religion in general are on the decline...
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