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Old 08-13-2014, 08:38 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Originally Posted by Tom Dempsey's Left Foot View Post
What's this "own nation" stuff? I know some black people whose families have been here far longer than mine (a.k.a. 100+ years). Same with Hispanics.

Just because I'm whiter than the bastard child of Tilda Swinton and Barry Manilow doesn't mean it's "my" nation more than anyone else's.
Amen.

 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by gunlover View Post
Bush and sons are Neo Cons, they are scum for the most part.

They will never vote for republicans or Conservative ideals the outcome of the 1986 amnesty was proof of this and the outcome is was lost the state of California.

This proves what their think and how they vote..They can not stay, we will not be reduced to a 3rd world slum to appease them.
V. Politics, Values and Religion | Pew Research Center's Hispanic Trends Project
Bush and Obama are interchangeable in a lot of ways. You will never be able to muster enough support to elect anyone too much further right than they are, regardless of the dreams of the Tea Party.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I mean looking at what has happened to every culture and nation that has been overwhelmed by other cultures and nations and was/is made a minority in their own nation has never ended well. From the Roman Empire to the culture problems to the Middle East



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I suspect most American Indians, Alaska and Hawaii natives would agree with you.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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It depends on how you define "value". What's good to you may not be good to someone else.
That is relativism which is not more then circle logic at is worse.

Value is defined as the following
The regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or usefulness of something.

Capitalism has more value then Socialism.
Rights have more value the Privileges
Individualism have more value then Collectivism
Liberty has more value then Tyranny
And Armed Citizenry has more value then a Disarmed Citizenry

What is good for others cultures and nations may not be good for us, ever think of that?

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There are soon good things about Western Civ, and some not so good things....probably is the case with all civilizations. The point is that dividing people up based on race, culture, ect is an exhausting and utterly pointless exercise...
Their are but with our is vastly disproportionately more great things then bad.

No it not pointless some races and cultures have difference things about them, and those differences make them uniqueness and wonderful and not not be washed over, ignored or erased but recognized, and celebrated and protected not smashed into one but keep as their own unique works of art in their own nations.

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you just gotta let it ride, man...we are here for not that long....all civilization will fall eventually.
If you wish to take your hands off of the controls of the plane that of your legacy and its amazing past and wondrous future insuring it smashes into the ground destroying everything it was and everything it will ever be, fine.. We are not will to commit such acts of self destruction.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The immigration act of 1965 is the reason why whites will become a minority. Why should whites submit to become a minority to appease non whites. 90% of the world is non white. Heaven forbid a few countries might have a white majority. Should I go to Mexico and guilt trip them because Mexico is only 10% white.
Relax. It'll all average out in a few more years.

I'm white and I don't feel in the least threatened by whites being in the minority. Why should I?
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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Bush and Obama are interchangeable in a lot of ways. You will never be able to muster enough support to elect anyone too much further right than they are, regardless of the dreams of the Tea Party.
Then explain how Reagan got elected. Not only elected, but re-elected by winning 49 out of 50 states. Your assertion does not match facts.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:46 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Relax. It'll all average out in a few more years.

I'm white and I don't feel in the least threatened by whites being in the minority. Why should I?
Ditto. I'd feel threatened if my skill set was insufficient for the century I live in, or if my mindset were centuries behind the times.

Demographic characteristics, though, is of no consequence.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I say it's a neutral thing, neither good or bad.
No its bad

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The culture issues of the ME are a little more complicated than people of other cultures living together, you also have to consider the sectarian issues involved.
Anything you have cultures that can not live together or near each other it always ends the same way..War and hatred.

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Rome wasn't overthrown because it was multicultural, it collapsed because it overextended itself, it was rife with corruption, and its enemies were able to match and then defeat Rome's military power.
So you are telling me not enforcing its borders and immigration did not aid its down fall?

Funny because it is pretty much a fact.



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Actually, you have to make the case that minorities are incapable of successfully living in a first world nation. There's no known inherent genetic trait that supports such a contention, stating otherwise is pure pseudo-science.
I never said minorities, I said cultures, case in point look at some of the Koreans they get it and are doing very great.

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The contention that race is a social construct doesn't mean racism doesn't exist.
Race is not a social construct it is real and does exist even at a genetic level. Are you saying it does not?
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:49 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Then explain how Reagan got elected. Not only elected, but re-elected by winning 49 out of 50 states. Your assertion does not match facts.
By running fiscally very mild conservative, but socially indifferent campaigns. RR never encouraged conservative groups to go after the still very young Roe v Wade decision. Wonder why, oh yes, RR was a realist, who understood hard right was not sellable.

"Morning in America" sounds like something Al Gore could run on. Can I have 3 verses of John Lennon singing protest songs with that, please?
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Don't know why whites should submit, but you WILL submit. Believe that.

Either that or leave, and you've got nowhere to go.
We will not submit, if you believe anything else I think you need to read up on history.


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Either that or leave, and you've got nowhere to go.
You just made our point for us..

We are not leaving we are staying here, and we are going to remind the majority in our nations, don't like that? YOU LEAVE.

What race are you? I really have to know this..
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