If You Were Choking A Person And They Said "I Can't Breath", What Would You Do? (state, New York)

[Driller1]

Originally Posted by Rggr

I would know that I wasn't actually choking him. If choking was my intent, I would adjust so that he couldn't say that.

Ever watch COPS????

People lie.....

Many say they are in some kind of horrible pain.

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by tinynot

The poll question was misleading. If you wanted to talk about cops choking people, you should have said so.
Then added more factors. If I had known you were luring posters, I wouldn't have answered the poll.

That is why I didn't enter the poll.

There is a big if, there.

[Rggr]

Originally Posted by Driller1

Ever watch COPS????

People lie.....

Many say they are in some kind of horrible pain.

Yep - it's a good trick.

[AKA Bubbleup]

If I were able to continue to subdue the perp without the hold and was authorized to make a decision I might release the hold and cuff the perp.

If an an onsite supervising officer gave me the order to place a hold on the perp to subdue I would wait for the supervisor's order to release the hold (so maybe the onsite supervisor is responsible but 'SHE' is 'BLACK').

Had I released the hold against orders I could have been written up for being insubordinate and for being a racist and for putting my colleagues and the public at large, at additional unnecessary risk.


Let's just charge the supervising officer with negligent homicide and let a grand jury go through the evidence again.

[fitzy24]

Originally Posted by Driller1

Ever watch COPS????

People lie.....

Many say they are in some kind of horrible pain.

Well, Mr. Garner wasn't lying being that he's dead now.

[Speleothem]

I don't always choke people,
but when I do, I use a garrote.
(They don't usually talk much.)

[Ringo1]

Originally Posted by bobtn

Choices should be

(1) Stop choking the person or
(2) Become a cop

Best post in the thread! Repped accordingly.

Originally Posted by d4g4m

If I was chocking someone and they could say, 'I can't breathe', ELEVEN TIMES, I would assume they can breathe.

But he really couldn't. OR he faked his own death.

[Eeyore1954]

Originally Posted by Ringo1

Best post in the thread! Repped accordingly.



But he really couldn't. OR he faked his own death.

Or he did not die because he could not breathe during the "choke hold".

[T_DC]

Originally Posted by Driller1

Ever watch COPS????

People lie.....

Many say they are in some kind of horrible pain.

True which is why it makes sense to check vitals and call an emt. Let the trained medical professionals judge whether or not it is a hoax or if your suspect is in distress or actually dying.

[Mason3000]

Originally Posted by dorado0359

Assuming:

- The person has no weapons.

- Five or six of you friends are with you.

Am I using an illegal choke or a perfectly legal head lock as taught in the police academy? I'm an EMT & we always say "if they can speak, they can breathe". The suspect in NYC died of a heart attack, not from choking.