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Old 12-22-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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Sooo...If when I retire I move someplace with a lower population, and lower expenses.....I will somehow contribute to the idea that republicans are mooches? Thats hilarious.
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Red states are bad? Not in my experience. Love my southern home. We have the lowest unemployment rate in the country I think, last I saw was 3.9, but could be wrong. I know no one unemployed who wants to be.

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Old 12-22-2014, 06:29 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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People change tags when they move. Why would they still have New England or California tags on their cars if they LIVE there somewhere else?

Come on now...don't get carried away.

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Many wait for their out of state tags to expire..... Frugal in that way they are.
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:30 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Some retirees may be moving south or west (not me, I'm staying!), but there are plenty of younger people moving to New Jersey because the jobs are here.

If you take a look at the New Jersey forum, you will see that most threads are from people moving into the state.

All the state based forums and most of the local city posts are about relocation.
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:33 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Whites receive the most welfare benefits in this country. I can back it up in more ways than one.


As a percentage of population demographics, or sheer numbers?
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Old 12-22-2014, 11:00 PM
 
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They're trying to push the "total dollars" argument.
I think in the future I'm just going to agree because it obliterates the poverty argument.
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Old 12-22-2014, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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As I said look at the map where the darker parts are does seem to be Reservations. The upper part of Idaho is the Nez Perce. Who by the way doesn't promote their people living by the government handouts. They are given money to run the Casinos up that way. Why does everything have to be about race and not facts. Damn it's on the map and you even tried to put it off as Red States ONLY, not seeing the land layout!

Nevada has high Indian population and they happen to get government help for being Indian.....not laying it on anyone, look at the upper part of Nevada and central Idaho owned by the state or ranchers, not much of a handout in those areas.
Look at the South. All that dark brown ain't only Indians or black folks.

2/3rds of Idahoans are making minimum wages. There are lots and lots of white employed folks here who are getting food stamps, aid for dependents, medical assistance, and all kinds of assistance every month while continuing to work.

The same is true in all the Red States. When the safety net doesn't exist locally, it falls on the government from the county level up. When counties are broke, it goes to the state, and when the state is broke, it goes to the Feds. Always has, always will.
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:20 AM
 
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The OP is making a racial insinuation. He/she conveniently forgets that the so called welfare dependent "red states" on his map that happen to not be all red states but rather the heavily mixed southern states. So, yes, there seems to be a racial component to the data but, miraculously, when we get to Nebraska, the Dakotas, etc, his insinuation no longer fits. Unsuccessful troll was not quite successful.

Also, he/she has only the most superficial, media fueled understanding of "red state" people and their politics. This isn't surprising, and its par for the course for blue state liberals. The reality is, OP, that Red State politics are overwhelmingly family oriented (social) over economic. The economic rhetoric is just a way to combat Marxism, which harbors anti-family values cultural Marxism. The left attempts to cynically hide its agenda in the rhetoric of economics and then attempts to play "gotcha" with conservatives when they respond in economic terms. Typical. We'll prefer it if you'd jsut stop talking to us altogether. We'll never, ever agree and we resent it when you're condescending. Trust me when I say, as a former liberal, that you can't help but be condescending if through no other mechanism than your ignorance of who conservatives are.
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Old 12-23-2014, 07:35 AM
 
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Good numbers, thanks.

With blacks we have to factor in that for their first 350 years here most were slaves with zero economic rights. That's bound to take a heavy toll on people as a group. After that they lived under racial apartheid for another 100 years with limited social and economic participation. That only ended recently (in my adult lifetime).

It would be interesting to see the trends. How is the percentage of people on welfare changing by demographics over the last 20, 40, 60 years, etc.?
Why have so many first and second generation Asians who moved here with practically nothing, sometimes not even language skills, been so successful?
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Old 12-23-2014, 07:51 AM
 
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Look at the South. All that dark brown ain't only Indians or black folks.

2/3rds of Idahoans are making minimum wages. There are lots and lots of white employed folks here who are getting food stamps, aid for dependents, medical assistance, and all kinds of assistance every month while continuing to work.

The same is true in all the Red States. When the safety net doesn't exist locally, it falls on the government from the county level up. When counties are broke, it goes to the state, and when the state is broke, it goes to the Feds. Always has, always will.
I was talking about the very dark areas to light brown.......not the yellow and gold areas. I'm aware white people live in those dark areas, I'm also aware big rich homes are in those areas.
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