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Old 06-26-2015, 08:22 PM
 
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Taking on risk and providing YOU with housing.. jeesus.. Do you really not know they provide you with a place to live?

What risk is taken on by holding a rapidly appreciating asset?

They provide me with housing because government enforces a captive market of rent slaves who are not allowed to provide their own cheap housing.

 
Old 06-27-2015, 07:01 AM
 
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So you are disappointed in someone who took student loans and are paying them back but give a pass to people who stick their hands out without any intention of paying a dime back. ROLL EYES.

Welfare has proven to be a very poor investment.

Your post is idiotic
If you bothered to read the facts, you'd know that "those people" aren't sticking their hands out with no intention of paying it back. As for my comment about his schooling, if he took out loans to graduate with that level of inability to reason or perform basic research, yes - as a taxpayer I consider his education a worse investment than giving a bit of aid to some poor, old, sick person.

Let me repeat - over 90% of people on welfare are working, elderly, or disabled.

http://www.cbpp.org/research/contrar...benefits-go-to

So, either you hate those people for some nutty reason, or you're just ignoring reality and chasing down that mythical "welfare momma with 20 kids and 3 Cadillac's" that was proven to have never existed ages ago.

Right-wing reasoning like what is on display in this topic is a sad, scathing indictment against everyone over a certain age being allowed to vote in this nation.

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Old 06-27-2015, 07:09 AM
 
Location: USA
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When you work you earn an asset called money. If you spend that asset you have to work more to make more. If you increase your income, because of our progressive tax code the government gets to take a higher percentage of you assets. Kind of your damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Yep, the poor are at a disadvantage. If you make more, the government takes more making it harder for you to build wealth. But according to you liberals and democrats, taking your assets is a good thing. You don't stand a chance in hell or it will take a damn long time. So go ahead and support those money grabbing politicians and wonder why you can't get out of the rat race.

Now go to work, the government needs more of your assets.
Lol - really? So the problem in America is the poor people have all the money? Hahaha - got i!

This nation is full of wealthy people. I love this nutty, alternate reality where somehow being wealthy is bad because "The guberment takes all mah money!" And yet you can go to almost any town in America and find it full of people who are gainfully employed, saving, and investing. Do far-right wingers keep accidently sending 90% of their income to the government each year? Because there is no government system out there that makes it "harder to earn more money if you make more money." That's absolute nonsense, and if it were true, we'd have everyone striving to be poor in this nation, which is not reality.

The basic facts are that the far right simply hates the poor and they hate the notion that any of their money goes to help anyone else. They, of course, still want their roads paved, their fires put out, their streets protected by the police, and the military defending their county or town, but everyone else can burn in heck as far as they concerned. They also have zero understanding of economics and refuse to acknowledge basic reality - over 90% of the people on welfare in this nation work, or are disabled and/or elderly. There is no mythical, magical realm full of able-bodied people lounging around, collecting huge piles of money for doing nothing... well, not counting worthless, overpaid, golden-parachute equipped executives... which the far right is okay with, because corporate welfare is good, but giving money to some old, ill guy to stay alive is bad. Right...
 
Old 06-27-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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Because there is no government system out there that makes it "harder to earn more money if you make more money."
wow, just wow. Did I say that government makes it harder to earn more money? Nooo, I said as you make more money the government takes more of your money making it harder for you to save and invest so you could build your wealth which if invested can produce a cash flow for you.

Why in the hell do you think people put money in their 401k? They are building wealth and hope it is enough to produce a cash flow live on when they retire.

Damn... people are so brainwashed to think giving money to the government is good they can't get simple concepts and they'll always be in the rat race.
 
Old 06-27-2015, 08:36 AM
 
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What risk is taken on by holding a rapidly appreciating asset?

They provide me with housing because government enforces a captive market of rent slaves who are not allowed to provide their own cheap housing.
Huh?
 
Old 06-27-2015, 08:42 AM
 
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The basic facts are that the far right simply hates the poor and they hate the notion that any of their money goes to help anyone else.

Oh the liberal drama <sarcasm>

The poor are poor because they know it all <sarcasm>

They, of course, still want their roads paved, their fires put out, their streets protected by the police, and the military defending their county or town,
Of course they do, they pay for it, of course they expect the service. You want it too but want someone else to pay for it.

but everyone else can burn in heck as far as they concerned.
Oh the drama

They also have zero understanding of economics and refuse to acknowledge basic reality
The rich have zero understanding of economics??? And poor people do? ba ha ha ha, a poor person who knows it all. <sarcasm>

- over 90% of the people on welfare in this nation work, or are disabled and/or elderly.

There is no mythical, magical realm full of able-bodied people lounging around, collecting huge piles of money for doing nothing...

As we all know, government will only give you the minimum but use you to cipher more from others.

well, not counting worthless, overpaid, golden-parachute equipped executives... which the far right is okay with, because corporate welfare is good, but giving money to some old, ill guy to stay alive is bad. Right...
LOL, thanks for the entertainment
 
Old 06-27-2015, 08:06 PM
 
Location: USA
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wow, just wow. Did I say that government makes it harder to earn more money?
Ah, yes - convenient memory lapses. Another side-effect of selfish, far right-wing delusions.

Remember this? You posted it in one of your rants in this thread.

"If you make more, the government takes more making it harder for you to build wealth"

So, yeah - apparently we're to believe that making more money makes it harder for you to build wealth because of the "evil government." So, the best way to be rich is to have no money, where in magical fairy-tale land, free money will just rain from the sky.

I also notice you haven't addressed the facts yet:

Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Get a Job? Most Welfare Recipients Already Have One - Real Time Economics - WSJ

USDA Blog » FACT vs. FICTION: USDA

So, most of those poor people you despise are actually working, not "sitting around doing nothing."

But that's okay - believe whatever you want. I wonder what will happen when you're at that age when you need taxpayer assistance and can't work anymore? I assume you'll be macho enough to turn it down, right? Lol... we all know how that goes. Right-wing extremists are always special snowflakes who think they are "entirely self-made," while everyone they dislike is a "lazy bum." No facts, no understanding of reality, no humility, and no empathy - sad, really. Anyway, enjoy your rantings; you have earned your Ignore status.

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Old 06-27-2015, 08:32 PM
 
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Ah, yes - convenient memory lapses. Another side-effect of selfish, far right-wing delusions.

Remember this? You posted it in one of your rants in this thread.

"If you make more, the government takes more making it harder for you to build wealth"

So, yeah - apparently we're to believe that making more money makes it harder for you to build wealth because of the "evil government." So, the best way to be rich is to have no money, where in magical fairy-tale land, free money will just rain from the sky.

I also notice you haven't addressed the facts yet:

Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Get a Job? Most Welfare Recipients Already Have One - Real Time Economics - WSJ

USDA Blog » FACT vs. FICTION: USDA

So, most of those poor people you despise are actually working, not "sitting around doing nothing."

But that's okay - believe whatever you want. I wonder what will happen when you're at that age when you need taxpayer assistance and can't work anymore? I assume you'll be macho enough to turn it down, right? Lol... we all know how that goes. Right-wing extremists are always special snowflakes who think they are "entirely self-made," while everyone they dislike is a "lazy bum." No facts, no understanding of reality, no humility, and no empathy - sad, really. Anyway, enjoy your rantings; you have earned your Ignore status.

^^^ And this folks is your typical Obama supporter lol
 
Old 06-27-2015, 11:18 PM
 
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Huh?

In my area, residential real estate is rapidly appreciating, with large-scale gentrification and displacement.

In this context, exactly what risk has my landlord (the owner) undertaken?

Government enforces a captive market of rent slaves by prohibiting affordable alternatives to the rental market, e.g. it is unlawful to buy an affordable tiny guest house, to generally camp outdoors on private property, or to buy affordable tiny lots.
 
Old 06-28-2015, 12:46 AM
 
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^^^ And this folks is your typical Obama supporter lol
aka someone dealing with facts and reality, and calling you out based upon that?

wow...thats...uhmmm...pretty horrible.
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