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Look at education levels by race/ethnicity. Look at crime levels by race/ethnicity. Bad decisions? I would certainly say so.
Quite a racist notion Informed Concent to say that every race besides european/white are alot poorer because of bad individual choices. What comes first? genocide, slavery, poverty and the effects of that thru the generations? Or bad personal choices?
I don't buy into everything is just bad personal choices arguement to exclude oneself from personal responsibility for another. Nor do i buy into just because we are _______ that we are just victems arguments either. I believe its balanced, i believe yes people have been victimize because of there minority status and i believe people have made some bad choices too, but i also believe other people have taken advantage of other peoples weakness etc to consolidate wealth and power. Unfortantly the ones who are consolidating wealth at others expensive don't want to take responsibility.
Look at education levels by race/ethnicity. Look at crime levels by race/ethnicity. Bad decisions? I would certainly say so.
So, "those people" are bad because they chose to be born into poor families with limited to no job opportunities, no resources, and lousy schools? Really?
If this is all a "choice," then I guess we should have all chosen to be born to millionaires! Makes about as much sense as what you're proposing.
I love this forum: where else can one find insane logic like generational poverty being considered a "choice" by everyone involved?
It never ceases to amaze me how in America, nearly all the hatred is shown towards the people with no wealth and no real power. Somehow, we're to believe that "those people" are the root of our problems - not the insanely wealthy clowns at the top who buy up leaders in their free time. It is completely illogical; the poor guy working fast food who needs food stamps to survive because his company pays crap is NOT the reason that there are fewer and fewer decent jobs in this nation. But the far-right are mostly corporate toadies, so they will not confront the real problems. This results in all sorts of sad and yet hilarious "reasoning" from them, such as:
1) Poor people have all the money in America, and if you earn more money, it becomes harder to save any.
2) Power is bad, which is why the government is bad but big business - which owns the government - is somehow good
3) All poor people are "lazy" and "do nothing" - regardless of what the facts say - and if they all just somehow got a great education, everyone in the nation would be upper middle class doctors, engineers, etc.
It's all BS and illustrates a staggering lack of understanding about economics, politics, and reality. But the far-right is not interested in of that. They react to facts the same way a vampire reacts to sunlight: hissing rage, before turning to dust or running. Pathetic!
I reiterate! Replace Income Tax and IRS with Consumption tax and simple Agency to collect same from merchants/sellers.
I agree. The current system keeps the middle class trapped and the poor don't care as long as the tax payer funded EBT cards keep chugging out money, nor do the big banks care, who do people think is making big money managing those EBT cards and handouts? It's time for the middle class to stop worrying about the poor and start worrying about themselves first, then they could help the poor.
There are over 72,000 pages to the current tax code. If government really wanted to help they would simplify it so everyone would understand it without having to hire CPA's to decipher it so taxes are filed without errors. But they won't. It is easier to fool people who don't understand then it is to fool knowledgeable people. Knowledge is power and with a 72,000 tax code the people don't have the power.
Quite a racist notion Informed Concent to say that every race besides european/white are alot poorer because of bad individual choices. What comes first? genocide, slavery, poverty and the effects of that thru the generations? Or bad personal choices?
I don't buy into everything is just bad personal choices arguement to exclude oneself from personal responsibility for another. Nor do i buy into just because we are _______ that we are just victems arguments either. I believe its balanced, i believe yes people have been victimize because of there minority status and i believe people have made some bad choices too, but i also believe other people have taken advantage of other peoples weakness etc to consolidate wealth and power. Unfortantly the ones who are consolidating wealth at others expensive don't want to take responsibility.
Knowledge is power and if you don't have the knowledge you're bound to be taken advantage of. You don't realize it but the Democrats are feeding into into your lack of financial understanding. hmm where did I hear that before, oh that's right, Democrat Gruber.
How to defeat. The poor need to get a clue and stop being so damn lazy, the middle class also needs to smarten up so they aren't so easily fooled by rhetoric. When people are more educated then the politicians and banks can't take advantage of them so easily.
You wouldn't happen to think that has anything to do with government control of education and what the schools are being targeted to teach would you?
That's an extreme misrepresentation. SS and Medicare AREN'T free handouts like welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, etc. One must have paid premiums for decades before ever becoming eligible for SS and Medicare benefits, while those who receive welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, etc., need never have paid or ever will have to pay even one thin dime in premiums for those benefits.
The minimum is actually 10 years making at least $4,880 (as of 2015) to be eligible.
However, regardless of the impression they try to give, you have absolutely no ownership interest in SS or Medicare. It ceased being your money the instant it hit the government's accounts. They could vote to end the programs tomorrow and you wouldn't be owed a thing. The courts ruled on that a long time ago. It's just another entitlement program, albeit with rules different than most.
The minimum is actually 10 years making at least $4,880 (as of 2015) to be eligible.
However, regardless of the impression they try to give, you have absolutely no ownership interest in SS or Medicare. It ceased being your money the instant it hit the government's accounts. They could vote to end the programs tomorrow and you wouldn't be owed a thing. The courts ruled on that a long time ago. It's just another entitlement program, albeit with rules different than most.
Maybe you are thinking only of yourself (shocking, I know) but many poor have no "refundable tax credits." Again, it's not like they have mortgages.
You and many here are so ill informed it's scary. Most have no idea what poverty really is. Tax credits? On WHAT?! Do you even think before you type?
Most refundable tax credits are from EITC and only available to the working poor with children. Mortgages don't generate tax credits, they're a deduction. Tax credits will actually pay you money back on top of no income tax if they work out that way. A negative income tax. Deductions can't take you beyond 0 tax due.
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