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The union hasn't negatively affected our lives. In fact, it's just the opposite. We have never had better health insurance. And that should be the number one priority when anyone is looking for a job. You can flip off unions if you want but I don't know why you would. Is this because they donate to the democrats
You're right. I do have a problem with that whole "pay to play". More specifically, I hate unions because they force all of their members, no matter their political affiliation, to donate to the democrats.
I've realized that there is no point in discussion with anti union partisans who cannot be reasoned with. They take the absolute extreme situation they have heard of and run with it and play it up to be routine and normal.
Union people are just people. We didn't seek out to be union people, we just needed a good job. We negotiate as a group with the best interests of the workers and the employer in mind. We aren't stupid, we appreciate our jobs. Allowing some to do the same jobs but not support the union is bad for everyone, employer included.
What is funny is that in basically no RTW states have such laws been shown to result in higher wages or standards of living...I guess "right to work" supporters think Wisconsin will somehow magically end up differently, though. Maybe they think Governor Walker is a wizard.
I've realized that there is no point in discussion with anti union partisans who cannot be reasoned with. They take the absolute extreme situation they have heard of and run with it and play it up to be routine and normal.
Union people are just people. We didn't seek out to be union people, we just needed a good job. We negotiate as a group with the best interests of the workers and the employer in mind. We aren't stupid, we appreciate our jobs. Allowing some to do the same jobs but not support the union is bad for everyone, employer included.
I respect and support everything you said until that last statement... can you explain that a little more?
If a non-union worker does the same job at the same quality and safety as a union worker why shouldn't they be "allowed" to do that job, assuming that they have come to an agreement with the employer on wages, benefits and everything else? How could that possibly hurt anyone else?
That is a complete and utterly false lie that has been debunked time and again.
Let's say your state took tax revenue, which contribute, and donated to Republican candidates, would you feel that you are essentially forced to contribute to Republicans since a percentage of what you pay in taxes goes to their campaigns?
The Republican attacks on unions have only one purpose, to gut support for Democrats. That is it. Destroying the middle and working classes are a GOP side benefit. The dedication to evil by Republicans is fanatical and the consequences have been very sad for the United States.
I respect and support everything you said until that last statement... can you explain that a little more?
If a non-union worker does the same job at the same quality and safety as a union worker why shouldn't they be "allowed" to do that job, assuming that they have come to an agreement with the employer on wages, benefits and everything else? How could that possibly hurt anyone else?
Cause the union can bargain up wages, better working hours, better benefits... All workers benefit from the bargaining unions do, but if all workers to do not have to pay or belong to the union, then you have a big freerider problem. That being said, are the union dues/obligations worth the benefits of bargaining a union does? That depends situation by situation.
I agree that unions should not be able to donate to political campaigns. But if unions are prohibited from doing so, corporations should be as well, and the PAC loophole should be closed.
Cause the union can bargain up wages, better working hours, better benefits... All workers benefit from the bargaining unions do, but if all workers to do not have to pay or belong to the union, then you have a big freerider problem. That being said, are the union dues/obligations worth the benefits of bargaining a union does? That depends situation by situation.
I agree that unions should not be able to donate to political campaigns. But if unions are prohibited from doing so, corporations should be as well, and the PAC loophole should be closed.
We've got 100 million workers in this country, about 6% of them are in a union... are you saying that the other 94% are freeloaders? Should all workers nationwide be paying fees to labor unions?
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