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I have to say since the last decade I see a lot of people rejecting the progressive influence of the mid 60 onward. This a large country and they haven't made much of a dent except in cities really that I have seen. My niece( how lives there) says; say your from California and they look at you like you have a disease now days in much of the country.
circumstances should be factored in, but how much is for you to judge, because I believe we both know that what I know is immoral you think is commendable.
this question is as much a question of what would be considered subjective morality as it is a historical question.
If you feel that people who vote for politicians have no accountability for their actions then the politicians should be judged like everybody else.
This is a open ended question that is based on your view of morality and history (provided you have some understanding of the later). I can't answer your question for you of how much to judge because we have different views on way to many subjects.
as much as the people are accountable for the actions of the politicians is how much they should be judged, politicians should be judges like everybody else (as a individual).
Then I say America is more moral today. The state isn't, but it's never been moral. The people are. People today are much more thoughtful in a lot of areas, constantly wanting to improve things. We are less racist and sexist now than we've ever been. Political correctness is annoying, but I suspect it's a phase that will die out within a decade or so, if we play our cards right. And if not, I wouldn't describe that as immorality.
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The answer is yes, and even more so during the 1950's. Lets not forget the hippie generation of free love & dope started in the mid 60's, and that is when a lot of morals went out the window.
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The 1950s were not moral. Not even a little. It was the most low key racist time period in American history. The only reason it didn't seem so bad was because the government took pity on white people living in the city and made quite an effort to move them into suburbs, where they wouldn't have to see the black people.
It was also a time of deception, marking the start of the Cold War.
A personal thing that was more universal then than it is today.
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I disagree, who's morals do you judge other people's morals by?
That is to say that there were a greater number of people that held their individual morals and principles in common with one another.
That does not mean everyone.
If you weren't there you would not realize this from experience.
The question doesn't even make sense... more moral than what?
Dozens of other folks made the connection that the comparison was between 1967 and the present day. It is a natural default for chronological comparisons.
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You know what's really assinine? Suggesting that a country has morals. People have morals, not countries.
Dozens of other folks understood the question to be with regard to the preponderance of people in the country. It is a natural default for behavioral comparisons.
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America has never been a moral country.
Dozens of other folks recognized the difference between "moral" and "more moral" in the OP, and recognized that that was querying about a comparison rather than engaging in any kind of silly the-world-is-only-black-and-white Nirvana Fallacy.
If I didn't know better, I'd be worried that some folks are working hard to distract attention from the topic because they feel threatened by the idea that how people treat other people matters.
Then I say America is more moral today. The state isn't, but it's never been moral. The people are. People today are much more thoughtful in a lot of areas, constantly wanting to improve things. We are less racist and sexist now than we've ever been. Political correctness is annoying, but I suspect it's a phase that will die out within a decade or so, if we play our cards right. And if not, I wouldn't describe that as immorality.
The 1950s were not moral. Not even a little. It was the most low key racist time period in American history. The only reason it didn't seem so bad was because the government took pity on white people living in the city and made quite an effort to move them into suburbs, where they wouldn't have to see the black people.
It was also a time of deception, marking the start of the Cold War.
This is the only sin that exists in America today.
evil has no boundaries- the mafia shot people in the streets- heroin was in, the hippies all got naked at a concert, people were burning other people of color, getting drunk was # 1 fight- no equal rights- children's prisons- slavery in sweat shops, lots of money laundering- sex -sex -sex ---we are the same, different drug- different weapons- different venue for illegal monies- and we still have sex issues
We have certainly made a lot of progress in terms of civil rights and other similar issues. America in 1967 was still a pretty unpleasant place for minorities. Also, I think things like the internet have created unprecedented transparency and the 24 hour news cycle now holds politicians to a higher level of scrutiny than ever before.
On the other hand, I think we have had an erosion of family values and our steady movement away from "traditional" values has probably only hurt us. I also think that popular culture/entertainment long ago crossed the line and began celebrating bad behavior over good behavior. When you see people getting famous for releasing a porn tape, instead of people getting famous for winning the medal of honor, one has to ponder the implications.
The answer is yes, and even more so during the 1950's. Lets not forget the hippie generation of free love & dope started in the mid 60's, and that is when a lot of morals went out the window.
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The 1950's might be one of the most immoral periods in our history.
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I have to say since the last decade I see a lot of people rejecting the progressive influence of the mid 60 onward. This a large country and they haven't made much of a dent except in cities really that I have seen. My niece( how lives there) says; say your from California and they look at you like you have a disease now days in much of the country.
Here we go again....postulating that silly idea that rural folks have better morals than urban people.
Hogwash. Rural people are more sanctimonious and hypocritical if anything.
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