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Old 04-02-2015, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Expensive?

Are you consuming the right-wing LIES, that somehow we cannot "afford" to cultivate fresh water for our citizens? Where do you think this money comes form?

If desalinization is such a bad idea... why is Israel doing it?

How is it that the wealthiest monetarily sovereign government cannot "afford" the technology to desalinate the world's largest pond, but can "afford" to wage countless wars? How is it that "cost" is the common excuse to refuse to solve any problems that serve the interest of the general population?

You've been duped.

My question will stand. How can the wealthiest state in the wealthiest nation bordered by the largest water supply on the planet possibly have such a dire water shortage?

Simple. Any large project not paid by the Feds isn't done here. We are good at spending other people's money.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:11 PM
 
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Simple. Any large project not paid by the Feds isn't done here. We are good at spending other people's money.
So good, that we are willing to limit water (a human essential NEED) from our population?

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Old 04-02-2015, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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So good, that we are willing to limit water (a human essential NEED) from our population?


Nothing prevents a private company from opening a desalination plant. I'm sure Bechtel can have one up and running for $20 billion or so. Pay them double and it might even get done on time.

Of course the environmentalists here would rather drink bottled water imported from a glacier than approve a desalination plant. They are notoriously hard on the environment.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:16 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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That's what I just said. According to liberals if there were no illegals there would be no farming in California. The valley farmers would pack up and we would save billions of gallons of water wasted on growing produce in the desert.
Oh? Got a link to just who allegedly said that? Or was it they just said if there were no illegals farmers would be paying more for labor?
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Oh? Got a link to just who allegedly said that? Or was it they just said if there were no illegals farmers would be paying more for labor?

Where have you been? Those are jobs americans just won't do!
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:20 PM
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Location: Portland, OR
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Expensive?

Are you consuming the right-wing LIES, that somehow we cannot "afford" to cultivate fresh water for our citizens? Where do you think this money comes form?
Yes, the right-wing lies. If it was simply the right that was spreading these "lies" then why hasn't the democratic governor and his democratic majority done anything? Why the democratic president done anything?

The fact is they have desalination plants in California. But again, it's expensive (and time consuming) to produce enough fresh water to cover the needs of all of California's large population. If it was so cheap and easy, why are your democrats declaring a state of emergency?
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Where have you been? Those are jobs americans just won't do!
I'll take that to mean you have nothing supporting the allegation you made, eh?
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:27 PM
 
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Yes, the right-wing lies. If it was simply the right that was spreading these "lies" then why hasn't the democratic governor and his democratic majority done anything? Why the democratic president done anything?

The fact is they have desalination plants in California. But again, it's expensive (and time consuming) to produce enough fresh water to cover the needs of all of California's large population. If it was so cheap and easy, why are your democrats declaring a state of emergency?
Water rates will skyrocket. Leeches,including illegals will demand subsidies. The middle class will be screwed.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:27 PM
J24
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Water rates will skyrocket. Leeches,including illegals will demand subsidies. The middle class will be screwed.
Then they would blame it on the republicans.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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Nothing prevents a private company from opening a desalination plant. I'm sure Bechtel can have one up and running for $20 billion or so. Pay them double and it might even get done on time.
Privatizing water? What a great idea!



Privatizing anything that is in the best interest of people and subjecting that service to corporate profits leads to a direct reduction in quality and safety. Regulations will become more lax, as the corporate machine bribes local officials to do so.

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Of course the environmentalists here would rather drink bottled water imported from a glacier than approve a desalination plant. They are notoriously hard on the environment.
....perhaps that is a good area to invest our research in.

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Yes, the right-wing lies. If it was simply the right that was spreading these "lies" then why hasn't the democratic governor and his democratic majority done anything? Why the democratic president done anything?
.........you actually think Democrats aren't right-wing? You think Obama is "left-wing?"



Democrats are notorious for widening the gap between the rich and the poor. They just aren't as horrific about it as Republicans.

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The fact is they have desalination plants in California. But again, it's expensive (and time consuming) to produce enough fresh water to cover the needs of all of California's large population. If it was so cheap and easy, why are your democrats declaring a state of emergency?
Like I said, riddle me this:

How are Israel and Jordan about to become the most water-rich countries in the entire region? Hmmm?!?! Explain.
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