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Old 04-02-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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Yeah, it is extremely expensive. They are building a desalination plant in San Diego, that will produce water at a cost > $2000 per acre foot which is a factor of ~10 higher than current water sources. It is not lies, it is energy intensive and therefore expensive to desalinate water.

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Expensive?

Are you consuming the right-wing LIES, that somehow we cannot "afford" to cultivate fresh water for our citizens? Where do you think this money comes form?

If desalinization is such a bad idea... why is Israel doing it?

How is it that the wealthiest monetarily sovereign government cannot "afford" the technology to desalinate the world's largest pond, but can "afford" to wage countless wars? How is it that "cost" is the common excuse to refuse to solve any problems that serve the interest of the general population?

You've been duped.

My question will stand. How can the wealthiest state in the wealthiest nation bordered by the largest water supply on the planet possibly have such a dire water shortage?
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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Expensive?

Are you consuming the right-wing LIES, that somehow we cannot "afford" to cultivate fresh water for our citizens? Where do you think this money comes form?

If desalinization is such a bad idea... why is Israel doing it?

How is it that the wealthiest monetarily sovereign government cannot "afford" the technology to desalinate the world's largest pond, but can "afford" to wage countless wars? How is it that "cost" is the common excuse to refuse to solve any problems that serve the interest of the general population?

You've been duped.

My question will stand. How can the wealthiest state in the wealthiest nation bordered by the largest water supply on the planet possibly have such a dire water shortage?

hardcore environmentalists. that's all you need to know sir.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Brown and one of the water resources people were on yesterday at one of the measuring points for the spring snowpack, it's normally around 8 feet and it was completely dry. It's down to around 7% of normal, this cannot be ignored. They have been in a drought for several years and this is long overdue.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:35 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Simple. Any large project not paid by the Feds isn't done here. We are good at spending other people's money.
Who paid for the State Water Project? (there's a hint in the name)
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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California's water shortage is going to get much worse....

The Sierra Nevada snowpack typically supplies 30 percent of California's water. But this year, the snowpack's water content was just 5 percent of the average amount in the northern Sierra Nevada and 6 percent of the average in the central and southern Sierra Nevada. California Obliterates Record for Lowest Snowpack Ever
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Privatizing water? What a great idea!



Privatizing anything that is in the best interest of people and subjecting that service to corporate profits leads to a direct reduction in quality and safety. Regulations will become more lax, as the corporate machine bribes local officials to do so.



....perhaps that is a good area to invest our research in.



.........you actually think Democrats aren't right-wing? You think Obama is "left-wing?"



Democrats are notorious for widening the gap between the rich and the poor. They just aren't as horrific about it as Republicans.



Like I said, riddle me this:

How are Israel and Jordan about to become the most water-rich countries in the entire region? Hmmm?!?! Explain.
There are private water utilities and electric companies right now.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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By spying on water meters.

But the number of people living in this house fluctuates. Does our water allowance fluctuate commensurately?
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:41 PM
 
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There are private water utilities and electric companies right now.
And they are ripping off citizens as we speak, just like toll roads, private banks, and private health insurance companies.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Who paid for the State Water Project? (there's a hint in the name)


The feds paid 63% of the 1960's project. For the proposed rebuild, expected to cost $25 billion:

"Water users, including San Joaquin Valley irrigation districts and urban agencies in Southern California and the Bay Area, would bear roughly two-thirds of the cost, with the rest coming from federal sources."

Except the politicians won't approve it because they want the Feds to pay more because it would burden the state as well as the users with higher rates. I'm sure you knew this already.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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And they are ripping off citizens as we speak, just like toll roads, private banks, and private health insurance companies.

So we should just turn the utilities over to the Feds? Maybe they can just click their mouse and transfer $20 billion to Bechtel and a magic water desalination plant will appear.
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