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Old 04-03-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Glenn Carbon, IL
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A water ban exactly like that in the late 70s is what gave us the Z-Boys and skateboarding in pools. The skaters will be psyched if they do it again.
Stacy Peralta and Tony Alva to name just a couple.

I had a half pipe with ten foot sides, swimming pool coping at the top and plenty of flat bottom in my backyard. We built it in 1980 and skated the H$ll out of it.
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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Stacy Peralta and Tony Alva to name just a couple.

I had a half pipe with ten foot sides, swimming pool coping at the top and plenty of flat bottom in my backyard. We built it in 1980 and skated the H$ll out of it.
Go Zboys. Zama rules.
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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Something that goes unmentioned because it was a synergistic, unconventional design about the Carlsbad desalinzation plant:

There has been for many years an old antiquated power plant next to the site. I am unsure of the fuel used, but it was steam turbines. Instead of a cooling tower the plant used pipe loops under water in one of the lagoons off of the ocean raising the water temperature significantly and killing marine life, plus it had a very polluting smokestack. Now, I do not know if they were under orders to end this practice or not but basically, Poseidon came in with this proposal: Lets take the heat from these loops, use it to provide a certain baseline temperature for our operations, mitigating the need for electricity and return the cooled water to the electrical plant, thus vastly decreasing both electrical usage and the heated output tot he ocean, neither of those aspects were ever part of any environmental lawsuits. I will mention the few items I recall that were in a few moments.

Now, yes, it will be expensive, that was one part of the holdup, was that it just was not mathematically feasible at first. However, though San Diego gets water via aquaduct, it has to first travel via the LA Water system and their "carriage" rates from the Colorado have skyrocketed over the last 10 years, they are now basically charging San Diego about 10x to move the mater than for the water itself. This, along with a projection the LA Water was going to increase carriage rates about 15% a year going forward is what made the Desal plant pencil out.

Now for the 2 specific items that I recall from past lawsuits over an approved but "deficient" EIR:

1) a lawsuit was filed that the EIR did not take into account the x-million extra people that could be sustained in San Diego County if the plant was built. IE the Sierra Club and such assumed that if the plant was built, there would be no resultant cutback in Colorado intake for SD just more roads, people and homes.

2) They environmental community found that a 6 ounce per day destruction of fish eggs at an intake pope to be unacceptable. I can't say if this is valid or not.

Now SD is paying Imperial Co farmers to idle land and sell that water, via the Colorado Aqueduct to SD it is the loss of the pesticide laden runoff from these idled farms that is killing Salton Sea. I also know of a little publicized plan form 1998 to study a canal from about Indio to Occitillo and a pump up over the mountains to just west of Boulevard that was nixed due to the $2Billion cost, it did not pencil out then but with the above mentioned escalation of LA Waters carriage rates, there has been some rumbling of revisiting the idea. I am watching this closely because of all the land held in Boulevard by me, my boss and a number of friends and also knowing just what a high fraction of coworkers at my last employer were daily commuters form El Centro and Callexico to San Diego, essentially, if Boulevard ever got running city water, we are all muiti millionaires overnight with our farm holdings.
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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How on earth will they enforce that?
Drones.

Targeting...

Mircea
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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When central Texas was going through their drought years and water restrictions were in place, the rich had wells dug on their property so they could keep their lawns green.

And there wasn't a damn thing the city could do about it either.
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:22 PM
 
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"But by all means let's keep the illegals pouring in here!"
LOL! Don't forget the gays and the Iranians...oh...and ISIS...what happened to ISIS?
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:23 PM
 
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When central Texas was going through their drought years and water restrictions were in place, the rich had wells dug on their property so they could keep their lawns green.

And there wasn't a damn thing the city could do about it either.
I don't think wealthy people worry about water, and why would the city want to do something about it?
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Old 04-04-2015, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I don't think wealthy people worry about water, and why would the city want to do something about it?
lol..you think that unmetered water is coming from a different source ?
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Old 04-04-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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I also agree with making potable water out of the Pacific Ocean. Yes, it CAN be done, and it just might become absolutely necessary!
I wouldn't recommend having a plutonic relationship with your water supply.
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Old 04-04-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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'Will California soon fill its prisons with "water criminals?" If a cop drives by a yard where two people are standing around, and one of them is smoking a joint while the other is watering his yard, guess which one will be arrested?

Gov. Brown orders California to become a water police state as region begins reverting to uninhabitable desert - NaturalNews.com
Dude, California is the number 1 state for a reason...
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