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Old 04-05-2015, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Here in Arizona MOST water's used by the farmers, NOT the golf courses. I think it's maybe 80 percent for agriculture.
It's the same in California. Going after people over lawns and long showers is not going to do much to alleviate any shortage. And golf courses have very large economic benefits as well. Letting them dry up would be a big financial mistake, more for AZ of course where tourism is a pillar of the economy and a far larger contributor to GDP than ag, but in CA as well. Fortunately, AZ is not looking at any dire drought or water restrictions at this time.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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What to you think California should do about the drought?

Wait another year or two. They are cyclical; we are at the end of the cycle.
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Old 04-05-2015, 08:30 AM
 
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Wait another year or two. They are cyclical; we are at the end of the cycle.
They don't all end in less than a decade.
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Old 04-05-2015, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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They don't all end in less than a decade.

Then wait a little longer.
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Old 04-05-2015, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The Los Angeles area is a semi-arid climate, not an arid (desert) climate. There are, of course, desert areas and cities, but the majority of the population is not in the desert areas.
I suppose it depends on your definition. Regardless, the vast majority of the population is based in areas where annual evaporation greatly exceeds annual rainfall. Without irrigation, LA would be nothing but sagebrush scrub and native grasses - Albuquerque by the sea.
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Old 04-05-2015, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Some suggest that the word California may signify that a place is "hot as an oven" (cali > hot, fornia > oven). It may be derived from caliente fornalia, Spanish for hot furnace, or it may come from calida fornax, Latin for hot furnace..... Maybe that's why it is named that.
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Old 04-05-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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Maybe it's Mother nature's way of thinning the herd. If a region has a population too large to be sustained in drought years, people will have to leave or be forced to give up their extravagant lifestyles. Its like the Dust Bowl.
Its a beautiful climate, warm and sunny. But its also basically a desert much of the time. Things will work out long term. People may be forced to sell their property now and leave to live elsewhere and businesses may also leave for greener pastures. But the weather can turn after a few years and you'll have a housing boom as new businesses and residents move back. It might look different, probably with foreign investors buying things up( China), but California looks very different now than it did 50 years ago. And it looked different 50 years ago than it did 100 years ago.
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Old 04-05-2015, 09:18 AM
 
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By spying on water meters.
Many don't have water meters ..... and that's a part of the problem. They even banned water meters in the 1990's for single owner properties. That's just one area, but there are many exactly like this in the Land of Fruits and Nuts.

Without Meters, Fresno Water Beyond Measure |NPR 2009
In the arid San Joaquin Valley, south of Sacramento, 55 percent of residents are currently not metered. Fresno, the region's largest city, charges single-family households a flat rate, regardless of how much water they use.

Calif. homes lack water meters during drought |Sept 2014

Although California is locked in a third year of historic drought, many homeowners and businesses still don't have meters telling them just how much water they are using.

That's changing, but some say it's not fast enough. State law requires water meters by 2025, but the State Water Resources Control Board says dozens of water districts, many in the thirsty Central Valley, aren't totally metered.


California is in it's 4th year of Drought and the Governor just now gets around to a the First in their History - Mandatory Water Restrictions

That is CRAZY - I had water restrictions in 1980 due to drought and have been under water restrictions for at least 5 years now. Thing is - most of us took notice of the droughts in the 80's and have done voluntary restrictions.
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Old 04-05-2015, 09:26 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Originally Posted by TrapperJohn That's what I just said. According to liberals if there were no illegals there would be no farming in California. The valley farmers would pack up and we would save billions of gallons of water wasted on growing produce in the desert.



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I'll take that to mean you have nothing supporting the allegation you made, eh?

Is this enough proof??????

Crops Rotting In Georgia Since Illegal Alien Farm Workers Fled State
Read more at Crops Rotting In Georgia Since Illegal Alien Farm Workers Fled State | Wonkette

Crops Rotting In Georgia Since Illegal Alien Farm Workers Fled State | Wonkette


Alabama Immigration Law Causing Produce To Rot In The Fields
Doug Mataconis · Thursday, October 6, 2011


Alabama Immigration Law Causing Produce To Rot In The Fields


Americans Won’t Do the Jobs Undocumented Workers Do for Pennies
By: David Dayen Friday October 21, 2011

Americans Won’t Do the Jobs Undocumented Workers Do for Pennies | FDL News Desk

Lack of immigration reform threatens California farmers
Growers have difficulty fielding adequate crews to harvest crops; Washington has a shot this year at providing meaningful relief.
February 20, 2013

Lack of immigration reform threatens California farmers - latimes
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Old 04-05-2015, 09:32 AM
 
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Maybe it's Mother nature's way of thinning the herd. If a region has a population too large to be sustained in drought years, people will have to leave or be forced to give up their extravagant lifestyles. Its like the Dust Bowl.
Its a beautiful climate, warm and sunny. But its also basically a desert much of the time. Things will work out long term. People may be forced to sell their property now and leave to live elsewhere and businesses may also leave for greener pastures. But the weather can turn after a few years and you'll have a housing boom as new businesses and residents move back. It might look different, probably with foreign investors buying things up( China), but California looks very different now than it did 50 years ago. And it looked different 50 years ago than it did 100 years ago.
The vast majority of Californians won't migrate until it's a crisis - when there's no water coming from their taps. They'll be like the Katrina people -- who lacked the wherewithal to get away from the hurricane -- on steroids.

Leftists have cognitive disorders that prevent them from thinking clearly and formulating a plan of action that makes sense.
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