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lolol, "we the people" are well regulated? That is just flipping hilarious.
"well regulated" at the time of the writing of the constitution meant in good working order. the second amendment was written the way it was because the founders did NOT want government regulating firearms. they wanted the people to own and carry their firearms, "keep and bear". and the phrase "shall not be infringed" means the government cannot prevent citizens from owning firearms without just cause.
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Actually, no place in the constitution does the document grant authority to the SCOTUS to decide constitutionality. That power was grabbed by the SCOTUS in Marbury v Madison.
Heller vs. DC was not as sweeping as you describe. The decision applies to Washington DC and protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. The decision did not address the question of whether the Second Amendment extends to the states, who can pass their own laws.
I agree but that's not my point. My point is about reasonable restrictions and the states impose different reasonable restrictions on the right to use, possess any types of firearms.
Those absolutist 2nd advocates feel that any restriction of any type, reasonable or not goes against the "Shall not be infringed" wording of the 2nd.
As an avid gun owner and 2nd amendment advocate, I take exception to the concept of "no reasonable restrictions."
That's all I'm saying.
Laws are created by man.
Our rights are not created by man, for man to arbitrate.
Laws are what government chains down the people with.The Constitution is what the people chain down the government with.
The supreme court is the federal government, that we chained with the constitution, in the Bill of Rights. Those very chains on government at all levels, protecting our god given rights, have been broken many times over, with the supreme courts blessing. A man or woman in a black robe getting paid by the US Treasury, will never determine my rights. Only the barrel of a gun does that. And the entire reason the 2nd amendment protects freedom & liberty for all. Not just the chosen.
The what the he11 are you doing in America? We are a nation of laws. We are founded on laws.
once again amendments are NOT removed or modified. they are REPEALED ONLY. example the 18th amendment was REPEALED by the 22nd amendment, it even says so in the amendment itself.
Amendments are amended, to reflect the change. Thus the 18th amendment still resides within the constitution. There is not a blank space there.
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Originally Posted by rbohm
"well regulated" at the time of the writing of the constitution meant in good working order. the second amendment was written the way it was because the founders did NOT want government regulating firearms. they wanted the people to own and carry their firearms, "keep and bear". and the phrase "shall not be infringed" means the government cannot prevent citizens from owning firearms without just cause.
Well regulated militia, meant the people could organize with their arms to train.
Militias today are outlawed by local, state and federal government.
There is no way word of an organized training of the people, with their arms in tactical operations, would fly. That would be shutdown and people locked up.
Laws are created by man.
Our rights are not created by man, for man to arbitrate.
Laws are what government chains down the people with.The Constitution is what the people chain down the government with.
The supreme court is the federal government, that we chained with the constitution, in the Bill of Rights. Those very chains on government at all levels, protecting our god given rights, have been broken many times over, with the supreme courts blessing. A man or woman in a black robe getting paid by the US Treasury, will never determine my rights. Only the barrel of a gun does that. And the entire reason the 2nd amendment protects freedom & liberty for all. Not just the chosen.
It just might be advisable to review and respect what it is to live in a GOVERNED SOCIETY. American is a Governed Society, and it by all means will enforce its Governance, via regulations, policy and amendments to those regulations and policies. Trying to operate without respect of that, puts one in the frame of being, becoming and subject to the same penalty as one of terrorist, and in some cases subversive prosecution.
Amendments are amended, to reflect the change. Thus the 18th amendment still resides within the constitution. There is not a blank space there.
that is why i said amendments are repealed, not removed or deleted. but there is no "amending" and amendment, it is repealed and replaced with a new amendment.
that is why i said amendments are repealed, not removed or deleted. but there is no "amending" and amendment, it is repealed and replaced with a new amendment.
Yes, they are amended with an amendment.
Few amendments have been to amended with language, certain parts of a previous amendment, but not full repeal of the amendment.
The 21st, is the only amendment that states repeal. (repeal of the only amendment*(18th), that took freedom instead of securing more)
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