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Old 02-24-2016, 09:44 PM
 
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I guess Jefferson was an optimist. Looks like the tree of liberty is mostly watered with the blood of fools and those unfortunate enough to be in their vicinity.

 
Old 02-24-2016, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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It wouldn't have the night before they loaded up their guns to head to Malhuer a tactical team would have picked them up at middle of the night, taken to a black sight where they would have tortured, and I mean tortured until all the names and plans of every militia member was known. They would have then been loaded on a helicopter flown out over the Pacific ocean and pushed out at 500 ft... never to be seen again.

That is what tyrannical governments do.
Remind me to stay on your good side when you come to power.
 
Old 02-25-2016, 07:37 AM
 
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It wouldn't have the night before they loaded up their guns to head to Malhuer a tactical team would have picked them up at middle of the night, taken to a black sight where they would have tortured, and I mean tortured until all the names and plans of every militia member was known. They would have then been loaded on a helicopter flown out over the Pacific ocean and pushed out at 500 ft... never to be seen again.

That is what tyrannical governments do.
That is what happened in Argentina about 30 years ago.
 
Old 02-25-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I guess Jefferson was an optimist. Looks like the tree of liberty is mostly watered with the blood of fools and those unfortunate enough to be in their vicinity.
Actually, the only blood shed here came closer to suicide-by-cop than to death in defense of a stand taken for well-thought-out principles.

Jefferson would *not* have been sympathetic to these mopes.
 
Old 02-25-2016, 11:49 AM
 
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That is what happened in Argentina about 30 years ago.
Don't forget Pinochet's Chili, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, (nuns and an Archbishops) and Bolivia while we're at it. All at the hands of distinguished alumni of The School of the Americas. Of course if you understand what went on at our behest and support of the U.S. government the right wing crying over lost freedoms brought about by healthcare, making cakes for gays and even the shooting of an occasional militia member seem… rather trivial in comparison. And trivial would be an understatement.
 
Old 02-25-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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I hope these idiots like occupying federal land because they are gonna be sitting in federal prison for a long time.
 
Old 02-25-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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25 plead not guilty


25 Plead Not Guilty in Standoff at the Oregon Wildlife Refuge
 
Old 02-25-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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Keep in mind that these are the people protecting us from government tyranny.
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God help you if you need those idiots to "protect" you. Besides not being remotely in the ideological ballpark as the majority of U.S. citizens, they're stupendously incompetent.
Quoted for truth & accuracy!
 
Old 02-25-2016, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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That's a lot of social security checks!


"The 41-day occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge cost taxpayers at least $3.3 million to cover the massive police response, a week of shuttered schools and a long list of supplies ranging from food to flashlight batteries, according to an Oregonian/OregonLive analysis of public and tribal budgets."


$3.3 million and counting: The cost of the Malheur occupation | OregonLive.com
 
Old 02-25-2016, 04:08 PM
 
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Besides not being remotely in the ideological ballpark as the majority of U.S. citizens...
Not only do they know that, they take great pride in it. The 3% thing is supposed to harken back to the war for independence where supposedly three percent of the population actually fought. These guys are defining themselves, deliberately, as being apart from the remaining 97% - not that they have 3% of the population backing them, obviously.

Formed in 2008 on the ever-popular "Obama's gitting our guns!" platform.

Having a small, vocal and armed group modelling themselves as vanguards of the revolution would be cause for concern, but so far they seem to be mostly dangerous to themselves.

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they're stupendously incompetent.
Well, yes.
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