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Old 01-23-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Polls are B.S.

These are the same polesters who alleged Trump had zero chance of winning the election in 2016.
But the mainstream media and their continually decreasing audience base are deluding theirselves.
Poor Trumplings are still going to be using that excuse 20 years from now.

The polls for the 2018 midterms did pretty well. So your objection is already obsolete.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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Soon it will be two years plus where he hasn't, for one day, had a higher approval than disapproval.

the only modern president with that distinction.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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Polls are B.S.

These are the same polesters who alleged Trump had zero chance of winning the election in 2016.
But the mainstream media and their continually decreasing audience base are deluding theirselves.
I shudder to think what a “polester” is.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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The payday tax scam bumped Trump's numbers up for a while there, but that euphoria has since drifted away.

Polls are reporting that non-college educated men, Evangelicals, suburban voters, etc. are drifting away as well.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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Trump's core supporters are slipping and McConnell approval is polling at around 25%.
I was just reading about that yesterday. Very small numbers, like 1 or 2%, but Trump's numbers among his base are ticking ever so slightly downward.

That could be huge though, because Trump already lost the popular vote in 2016. And with much of the country against him now, Trump is going to need his entire base to come out and vote if he wants to win in 2020 (if Trump is still in office then).

So if 1 or 2 % of his base doesn't vote in 2020 that voted in 2016, that will probably be enough where he'd lose the big swing states that he barely won, and will lose the 2016 election.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:51 PM
 
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the only modern president with that distinction.
The problem is that a cornered rat will do ANYTHING.....so as things get worse, Trump is not going to get better (like normal people would respond). He will keep going - because there is plenty left to ruin for other people.

That is what drives Trump. Attention. Whether that Attention is from the world falling apart or his name on a licensed scheme matters not.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: South of Cakalaki
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I shudder to think what a “polester” is.
I knew a few of them back in the day.
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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The problem is that a cornered rat will do ANYTHING.....so as things get worse, Trump is not going to get better (like normal people would respond). He will keep going - because there is plenty left to ruin for other people.

That is what drives Trump. Attention. Whether that Attention is from the world falling apart or his name on a licensed scheme matters not.
Divider and destroyer. This was obvious from the very beginning.
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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I was just reading about that yesterday. Very small numbers, like 1 or 2%, but Trump's numbers among his base are ticking ever so slightly downward.

That could be huge though, because Trump already lost the popular vote in 2016. And with much of the country against him now, Trump is going to need his entire base to come out and vote if he wants to win in 2020 (if Trump is still in office then).

So if 1 or 2 % of his base doesn't vote in 2020 that voted in 2016, that will probably be enough where he'd lose the big swing states that he barely won, and will lose the 2016 election.

Trump supporters don't want to acknowledge the fact that Trump barely squeaked out the election, by only 72,000 votes in three states. Hardly a mandate.
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:33 PM
 
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Trump supporters don't want to acknowledge the fact that Trump barely squeaked out the election, by only 72,000 votes in three states. Hardly a mandate.
Its amazing what Trump supporters do. Initially, they tried to tell us that Trump had won a "huge" victory.

Than when its pointed out that Trump only won because of 72,000 votes in three states they start talking about the "great wisdom" of the Founding Fathers in setting up the Electoral College.

Than when you remind them that Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump, the next tactic is to claim that "that is only because of millions of illegal aliens who voted".

A lot can change in two years, but I note that as of today, Trump's approval numbers stink. Politics 538 average of polls gives him a 39% approval rating. Real Clear Politics average gives him 40%. Trump has accomplished the impossible. He is at 42% approval in that embarrassingly conservative and partisan poll, Rasmussen.

The rate things are going, the democrats could nominate almost any candidate and win. Head to head match ups show every candidate who has filed ahead and Joe Biden ahead by double digits.

Trump may succeed in destroying the republican brand for a generation.
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