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Old 09-22-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
I thought you didn't believe in polls?

Was I mistaken?
Yes you are mistaken.
I don't know how many times I have to repeat this.
I add 10% onto each poll because I know Trump supporters generally avoid pollsters because pollsters represent the hated media....
So the polls are very useful once you add 10% to Trump (or 5%, whatever you think the missing number is).
Plus you can compare a Reuters poll today to a Reuters poll from last month, and it is useful to see the change, because the change is useful regardless of how accurate the polling is.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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So what it's going to take to get some of the communist on board the Trump Train ? A pony ?
Trump is a leftist on trade. Trump = Bernie on trade.

He is also a leftist when it comes to running big budget deficits
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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Yes you are mistaken.
I don't know how many times I have to repeat this.
I add 10% onto each poll because I know Trump supporters generally avoid pollsters because pollsters represent the media....
So the polls are very useful once you add 10% to Trump (or 5%, whatever you think the missing number is).
Plus you can also compare a Reuters poll today to a Reuters poll from last month, and that is useful to see the change.
I must have confused you with someone else. Sorry.

So you are weighting the results of other people's polls with an arbitrary 10% ?
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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I must have confused you with someone else. Sorry.

So you are weighting the results of other people's polls with an arbitrary 10% ?
Do I have to explain it again?
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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Trump is a leftist on trade. Trump = Bernie on trade.

He is also a leftist when it comes to running big budget deficits
I have stated this elsewhere, but during the primaries I was very impressed by some of the positions Trump promoted.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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Do I have to explain it again?
Why so snarky?

This might surprise you, but you are not the center of anyone's world around here. No one is going to remember that you make some quirky manipulation of poll numbers, you need to state that every time you post a poll. You are not posting Rasmussen's numbers (for example) you are posting your interpretation of their numbers and if you don't make that clear upfront it is dishonest.

Likely, some pollsters may be already weighting their reports based upon the type of factors you cite, so you could be twisting the results far from reality.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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Why so snarky?

This might surprise you, but you are not the center of anyone's world around here. No one is going to remember that you make some quirky manipulation of poll numbers, you need to state that every time you post a poll. You are not posting Rasmussen's numbers (for example) you are posting your interpretation of their numbers and if you don't make that clear upfront it is dishonest.

Generally, some pollsters are likely already weighting their reports based upon the type of factors you cite, so you could be twisting the results far from reality.
I'm not posting my interpretation of anyone's numbers.
Look at my original post, it says the actual poll numbers from RealClearPolitics.
"Generally, some pollsters"? I have no idea which pollsters you are referring to.

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Old 09-22-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Trump is a leftist on trade. Trump = Bernie on trade.

He is also a leftist when it comes to running big budget deficits
You are correct. And what's funny, those of us who criticize Trump from a traditional conservative perspective are labeled as "leftists" by the trumpies.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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Yes you are mistaken.
I don't know how many times I have to repeat this.
I add 10% onto each poll because I know Trump supporters generally avoid pollsters because pollsters represent the hated media....
So the polls are very useful once you add 10% to Trump (or 5%, whatever you think the missing number is).
Plus you can compare a Reuters poll today to a Reuters poll from last month, and it is useful to see the change, because the change is useful regardless of how accurate the polling is.
So you arbitrarily add 10% in your own head?

LOL

And they say we've got Trump derangement syndrome.

Why even bother looking at polls if you're just going to just make up your own numbers? It's meaningless.

Either believe the polls, or don't.
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