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The answer is ....I work with them, I talk to them and I've even had some over for dinner.
They are no longer afraid to admit they're illegal, they come right out and tell you exactly why they are here, how they got here etc.
Again, the employers hiring them care more about green than red vs blue.
Entrepreneurs of all stripes know not to let their political ideology get in the way of making a buck.
But that's not true. The employers care about red AND green and this is demonstrated by their voting and reading behavior, AND their behavior as an employer.
These Republican employers are enriching themselves by hiring illegals, and then they use that money to buy right-wing books, watch right-wing news channels, go to right-wing churches, and presumably lobby right-wing political campaigns. Their friends are right-wing too.
I'd also point out that most low income Americans who are hurt by illegal immigrants are Democrats. So we're in a weird situation where lower-income Republicans are fighting on behalf of low-income Democrats, while high-income Republicans are fighting on behalf of low-income illegal immigrants.
But that's not true. The employers care about red AND green and this is demonstrated by their voting and reading behavior, AND their behavior as an employer.
These Republican employers are enriching themselves by hiring illegals, and then they use that money to buy right-wing books, watch right-wing news channels, go to right-wing churches, and presumably lobby right-wing political campaigns. Their friends are right-wing too.
I'd also point out that most low income Americans who are hurt by illegal immigrants are Democrats. So we're in a weird situation where lower-income Republicans are fighting on behalf of low-income Democrats, while high-income Republicans are fighting on behalf of low-income illegal immigrants.
So in your mind, this is how things work? Got it. You have no clue.
Actual individuals are just trying to make livings and put food on the table, under the circumstances served to them idiots elected to run this circus. Some get rich in the process, some become moderately wealthy, and a whole lot end up getting by or being completely used and abused. That's how it works in just about any system, and ours is no exception. Some people have to work really hard to ensure this system works for everyone. Not the fake, I put in the effort so I should get a trophy kind either.
???? But a truly free market requires the free movement of labor as well as goods. That's why classic libertarians advocate for open borders.
And that's reason #1 why I'm not a Libertarian.
Free markets within American borders don't need foreign labor, legal or illegal driving down the wages. That may fit in with the Libertarian world view, but it certainly doesn't fit in with the American sense of fair play.
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This, along with the Libertarian's weak foreign policy is why they will never be taken seriously by the American public and will wallow in "also ran" obscurity until they leave these parts of their platform behind.
So in your mind, this is how things work? Got it. You have no clue.
Actual individuals are just trying to make livings and put food on the table, under the circumstances served to them idiots elected to run this circus. Some get rich in the process, some become wealthy, and a whole lot end up getting by, or being completely used and abuses. That's how it workers.
What I described is absolutely what I'm seeing when I go to work every week.
And don't try to compare these employers to people "just trying to make a living". They have millions of dollars in net worth usually and STILL hire illegals to minimize labor expenses.
Why don't the Americans just reduce their salary expectations accordingly, then?
It sounds like Americans want Trump and the government to force employers to hire them at a higher price than what the free market wants to provide. IE: socialism.
An interesting view. I would think the more interesting question is why the US would allow American developed technology to be used in the world outside the US.
but in this case the issue is should the US allow the importation of labor from a foreign labor pool to lower US salaries. No doubt about it. India turns out some fine engineers. They use US technology and text books and courses to educate a selected set of their population. But should these people enter under conditions of involuntary servitude to compete with US workers?
At the least the rule should be that any imported worker, once in the US, is free to move to a new employer or job. I susepct that would virtually instantly halt the importation of Indian techies. They are valuable only as long as indentured.
And further I would establish a rule than anyone who writes or maintains software off shore takes responsiblity for any loss due to invasion of that software
Free markets within American borders don't need foreign labor, legal or illegal driving down the wages. That may fit in with the Libertarian world view, but it certainly doesn't fit in with the American sense of fair play.
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This, along with the Libertarian's weak foreign policy is why they will never be taken seriously by the American public and will wallow in "also ran" obscurity until they leave these parts of their platform behind.
I assume the Libertarian response will be: Freedom doesn't fit in with the American sense of fair play? Eh?
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