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Old 05-30-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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Buy and hold. Make consistent investments over time. It is really that simple. You should do that with or without QE. Yes, once QE begins it has to be reduced slowly.
Once again....it's not about me. I will be fine.

 
Old 05-30-2016, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Houston
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You seem to not-grasp the difference in personal investing strategy and national economic policy.
The point is that investing in capital is good regardless of economic policies that will shift many times over a typical worker's career. You do have to be careful if the Fed goes from an expansionary to a contractionary mode to quickly.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 04:13 PM
 
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Yes, you are investing in capital. Your return on the investment is not entirely related to how well that company you invested in is doing.[ The value is too dependent on actions of government. [/b]However, I will not cut off my nose to spite my face. I will try to maximize my wealth under the current social contract.
However nothing. Corporate welfare needs to stop.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Once again....it's not about me. I will be fine.
Who won't be fine?
 
Old 05-30-2016, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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That's the entire idea. They do everything they can to force people out of all other areas and into the markets.

This is an artificial way to keep it inflated. That is not how it is supposed to work.

The markets are currently corrupt.

What other areas? If you aren't in the market you earn nothing.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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The point is that investing in capital is good regardless of economic policies that will shift many times over a typical worker's career. You do have to be careful if the Fed goes from an expansionary to a contractionary mode to quickly.
Q.E. is not capital.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 04:15 PM
 
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What other areas? If you aren't in the market you earn nothing.
Right now that is correct. Artificially so. The government should not be forcing everyone into the markets by their actions in order to keep the markets inflated.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Houston
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However nothing. Corporate welfare needs to stop.
It needs to be slowly eliminated. It will not be without shrinking the size of government.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 04:17 PM
 
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The point is that investing in capital is good regardless of economic policies that will shift many times over a typical worker's career. You do have to be careful if the Fed goes from an expansionary to a contractionary mode to quickly.
ok. be that as it may, your point about personal investing strategy is not relevant to a discussion about national policy.

You just confirmed for me that you, in fact, do not understand that there is a difference in personal investing strategy and national economic policy.

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Don't you have a 401K? I am just a working stiff whose retirement funds are 90% in the stock market.

It ain't that hard to join the "donor" class.
The "donor" class refers to people who donate to politicians in order to set policy favorable to their economic interests.

It does not refer to owning shares.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 04:20 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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This has always fascinated me. Huge numbers of working class republicans talk about how free stuff is terrible, after 40 years of a massive transfer and redistribution of wealth and income from the working class to the big money donor class. Free stuff is flowing to the donor class in the forms of corporate welfare, trade deals, wars for profits, bailouts, anti-trust laws etc etc etc, keeping the donor class on top while laughing at the working class. I just dont get it. Why are so many republicans not bothered by the elephant in the room ****ting the hole room down but instead they continue to focus on some dust in the corner like food stamp fraud?
I think that the support for corporate bailouts and such is to protect their stock investments and retirement funds. A huge number of people from the middle class and up to the very wealthy would be tragically affected if the large corporations were to have failures and bankruptcies. Many pension plans would collapse.
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