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Old 05-30-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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This has always fascinated me. Huge numbers of working class republicans talk about how free stuff is terrible, after 40 years of a massive transfer and redistribution of wealth and income from the working class to the big money donor class. Free stuff is flowing to the donor class in the forms of corporate welfare, trade deals, wars for profits, bailouts, anti-trust laws etc etc etc, keeping the donor class on top while laughing at the working class. I just dont get it. Why are so many republicans not bothered by the elephant in the room ****ting the hole room down but instead they continue to focus on some dust in the corner like food stamp fraud?
I think that a large segment of the Republican electorate is as bothered by corporate welfare as individual welfare...which is why you see Trump winning the primary and being attacked by supporters of corporate welfare like Beck, Kristol, Romney, Levin...

 
Old 05-30-2016, 07:48 AM
 
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Anti-trust laws have been weakened, not strengthened. To protect the donor class and big wigs. Whether its airlines, cable companies, food manufacturers, banks etc etc. We have too big to fail, government insurance policy, massively benefiting big banks at the expense of the people, with billions flowing to the top. Corporate welfare goes on at all levels. Big pharma ripping off the consumers as they are the biggest lobbyists in DC together with Wall Street. Big businesses are given massive gifts like striking settlements instead of being persecuted when they engage in criminal activities. Just pay a fine, get off scot free. Then continue criminal bahavior. Big banks are masters at this.
That's a Dem thing. How Obama's former US Attorney General, Eric Holder was involved...

Eric Holder's 1999 Memo Helped Set The Stage For 'Too Big To Jail'

Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent

Justice Denied: Why Countrywide's Mozilo Isn't Going to Prison

The last link explains the involvement of the U.S. Attorney's office in the Southern District of New York (heavily Dem).

You're lashing out at the wrong party.

And Dems want to elect Hillary for more of the same.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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Republicans run a fantastic distraction machine.

Want to invade a country so you can enrich your buddies? Lie to the American people, make up links you know to be false, and get everyone nice and scared.
Were Dems asleep when this happened?

Listen to WHAT Clinton says.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENAV_UoIfgc


The year was 1998. Do any of these arguments against Iraq sound familiar? George W. Bush is accused of lying about Iraq's WMDs. Was President Clinton also lying?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACffW99kOB8
 
Old 05-30-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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Just like the NC bathroom law which reared it's ugly head during election season. Foolish people backing a law because they hate transgenders.
Where do you learn that garbage?

Charlotte, NC tried to give male sexual predators with exposure/voyeur fetishes legal permission to be in girls'/women's multiple occupancy restrooms/changing/locker/shower rooms merely by "claiming" to be transgender, but then NC's HB2 negated it.

I've asked several times, and NO ONE has yet been able to answer the questions... There's no definitive identification of who is or who is not transgender. What's the criteria to identify someone as such? Merely someone's "say so" about themselves? And who is monitoring access to girls'/women's multiple occupancy restroom/locker/shower room facilities to make sure that only those who actually ARE transgender are admitted to the facilities? Will there be guards at each entrance the entire time such facilities are open?

Futhermore, under Obama's foot-stomping "edict," any sexual predator male with an exposure fetish can just stroll right into the girl's/women's multiple occupancy locker/shower room, strip down to nothing, and if he "says" he's "transgender," no girl/woman can do a thing about it except to submit to indecent exposure ...or leave. And what's to stop male voyeur sexual predators from watching girls/women undress under the same circumstances? All they have to do is "say" they're "transgender" and all's good; no one can challenge their right to be there.

Obama has set up a direct conflict between his foot-stomping "edict" and sex crime laws (including FELONY indecent exposure; felony due to occurrence on school grounds and/or age of victim/s).

Obama, liberals, and trans SJWs clearly did NOT think through the consequences of demanding such an idiotic policy.

But don't feel bad... the University of Toronto did the same thing and then had to backtrack on their policy because male students were caught videoing female students in the shower. What I don't get is how supposedly "smart" people like college administrators, Obama, etc., never thought through their "edicts" to this and the other inevitable consequences. Do they have NO common sense? WTF?
 
Old 05-30-2016, 10:44 AM
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Were Dems asleep when this happened?

Listen to WHAT Clinton says.
Do you understand that there's a difference between the videos you posted and what the Bush administration did?

They simply fabricated a link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. They knew it was false. The CIA told them it was false. The Vice President's office was calling up individual CIA analysts on the phone and dragging people into rooms at CIA headquarters to make it clear that they were unhappy with the factual information they'd been provided.

They turned Abu Musab al-Zarqawi into that link between Iraq and Al Qaeda, which is absurd because Bin Laden thought he was a crappy terrorist and he's exactly the sort of guy Saddam would have had killed. There was simply no link there, but they fabricated one anyway.

Then we invaded. Trillions later, the contractors got rich, thousands of Americans died, and Iraq was in chaos. al-Zarqawi set about creating ISIS until he was eventually killed. Don't worry though, eventually al-Baghdadi stepped in and finished the job.

What did we actually get out of the invasion and occupation? Nothing. But it sure did help line the bank accounts of military contractors. And it was all based on lies fabricated by the Bush administration.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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Do you understand that there's a difference between the videos you posted and what the Bush administration did?

They simply fabricated a link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. They knew it was false. The CIA told them it was false. The Vice President's office was calling up individual CIA analysts on the phone and dragging people into rooms at CIA headquarters to make it clear that they were unhappy with the factual information they'd been provided.
The Bush Admin acted on CLINTON'S Iraq LIBERATION Act and LIBERATED Iraq.

If you have a problem with that, Clinton's your man.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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Republicans consider it patriotic for the wealthy to take every advantage possible, while paying as little in taxes as possible and paying their employees as little as possible.
True that.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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This has always fascinated me. Huge numbers of working class republicans talk about how free stuff is terrible, after 40 years of a massive transfer and redistribution of wealth and income from the working class to the big money donor class. Free stuff is flowing to the donor class in the forms of corporate welfare, trade deals, wars for profits, bailouts, anti-trust laws etc etc etc, keeping the donor class on top while laughing at the working class. I just dont get it. Why are so many republicans not bothered by the elephant in the room ****ting the hole room down but instead they continue to focus on some dust in the corner like food stamp fraud?

The donor class still pays the majority of the taxes which allows the lowest 40% of earners all that free stuff. It allows our poor to live a lifestyle far above what is considered poor in other countries.

Your premise is flawed.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 11:18 AM
 
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Do you understand that there's a difference between the videos you posted and what the Bush administration did?

They simply fabricated a link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. They knew it was false. The CIA told them it was false. The Vice President's office was calling up individual CIA analysts on the phone and dragging people into rooms at CIA headquarters to make it clear that they were unhappy with the factual information they'd been provided.

They turned Abu Musab al-Zarqawi into that link between Iraq and Al Qaeda, which is absurd because Bin Laden thought he was a crappy terrorist and he's exactly the sort of guy Saddam would have had killed. There was simply no link there, but they fabricated one anyway.

Then we invaded. Trillions later, the contractors got rich, thousands of Americans died, and Iraq was in chaos. al-Zarqawi set about creating ISIS until he was eventually killed. Don't worry though, eventually al-Baghdadi stepped in and finished the job.

What did we actually get out of the invasion and occupation? Nothing. But it sure did help line the bank accounts of military contractors. And it was all based on lies fabricated by the Bush administration.
It's not over...no, we are still not going to get anything out of some time in the future when we actually get a leader to do what is right but that looks to be far off.
 
Old 05-30-2016, 11:20 AM
 
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The donor class still pays the majority of the taxes which allows the lowest 40% of earners all that free stuff. It allows our poor to live a lifestyle far above what is considered poor in other countries.

Your premise is flawed.
The "donor class" was bailed out by the middle class and to some extent the lowest classes.
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