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Old 06-13-2016, 01:17 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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We seem to lack basic understanding. It is still against the law for a male to access some female facility for voyeuristic, assault or other illegal purpose. Nothing has changed. And it is illegal whether dressed as a man or a woman.
So... What's the procedure now for keeping male sexual predators OUT of schools' girls' multiple occupancy restroom/changing/locker/shower room facilities?
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:19 PM
 
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This ruling has nothing to do with men in general but is specific to some very narrow set of students.
Don't even begin to pretend that's true. /puke

What's the requirement to prove that one is actually transgender?
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:22 PM
 
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You are still dodging the question. Let me answer it for you, it is still illegal. If a woman assaults another woman, that is illegal. If the woman assaulting the other woman has a penis, it is still illegal. Do you understand this?
Are you mathematically ignorant? Depending on which source is cited, 98-99% of ALL sexual predators are MALE.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:35 PM
 
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Don't even begin to pretend that's true. /puke

What's the requirement to prove that one is actually transgender?
I quoted the letter precisely earlier. The word "man" or "men" is not in the quote.

One does not have to "prove" anything. But one must have proper standing to claim it. Note in the vast major of cases gender is not proven but is accepted as claimed. The actual test for gender is done only in rare cases. Read up on the Indian female track star.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:38 PM
 
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Are you mathematically ignorant? Depending on which source is cited, 98-99% of ALL sexual predators are MALE.
We are not dealing with the class of "All sexual predators". We are dealing with the class that would invade a women's facility. That may well not be the same as the "All" class.

You have some evidence they have the same distribution? I would think this class is too small to have much avaiable data.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:44 PM
 
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Are you mathematically ignorant? Depending on which source is cited, 98-99% of ALL sexual predators are MALE.
Are you even reading what I wrote or do you just cut and paste nonsense when you are wrong? It is one or the other. It is ILLEGAL FOR A WOMAN TO SEXUALLY ASSAULT A WOMAN. Let me know when that sinks in.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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I quoted the letter precisely earlier. The word "man" or "men" is not in the quote.

One does not have to "prove" anything.
EXACTLY my point.

And we KNOW that 98-99% of ALL sexual predators are MALE.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:48 PM
 
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EXACTLY my point.

And we KNOW that 98-99% of ALL sexual predators are MALE.
No one is disputing that. We ALL agree with that statistic. Sexual assault is illegal regardless of sex.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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No one is disputing that. We ALL agree with that statistic. Sexual assault is illegal regardless of sex.
So WHY let males into females' facilities based on NOTHING more than their "say so?"
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Old 06-13-2016, 02:14 PM
 
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So WHY let males into females' facilities based on NOTHING more than their "say so?"
Because that is what we did before the letter. That is what we do now. And that is we will do after the letter takes what ever effects it has.
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