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View Poll Results: Do you support two weeks of mandatory vacation for all full-time workers in the US?
Yes 112 52.83%
No 100 47.17%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-24-2016, 01:48 PM
 
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Why? Because you say so? Your opinion is just that. You have never run a business or employed anyone have you?
Actually I had employees years ago and I treated them quite well. I made a bit less money, but the satisfaction I had by knowing I treated them like family was worth it. They also worked very hard and i did not have to push them. One of them had surgery and was off for two weeks. She was a part time worker, but i kept her on the payroll even though we never discuss that issue. I also sent them to conferences and gave them extra cash so they could eat in good restaurants.

Why are you against the concept of treating employees well?
Are you against child labor laws? The 40 hour week? Weekends off?

Sometimes these things have to be mandated because not all employers are kind to the workers. And once they become the norm it is automatic. One day 6-8 weeks vacation will be the norm in America.
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Old 06-24-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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The government has no business telling private companies to pay you for two or more weeks off. If it's important to you it should be a consideration when you decide to accept a job, just like health insurance, hours per week, flex time, sick leave, etc.. If companies want good people they offer more perks.
Thanks for regurgitating that. Can you think out of the box?
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Old 06-24-2016, 02:09 PM
 
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Actually I had employees years ago and I treated them quite well. I made a bit less money, but the satisfaction I had by knowing I treated them like family was worth it. They also worked very hard and i did not have to push them. One of them had surgery and was off for two weeks. She was a part time worker, but i kept her on the payroll even though we never discuss that issue. I also sent them to conferences and gave them extra cash so they could eat in good restaurants.

Why are you against the concept of treating employees well?
Are you against child labor laws? The 40 hour week? Weekends off?

Sometimes these things have to be mandated because not all employers are kind to the workers. And once they become the norm it is automatic. One day 6-8 weeks vacation will be the norm in America.
There you go again, twisting my words. I never said I was "against the concept of treating employees well."

I said I am against government mandating how PRIVATE BUSINESSES compensate their employees.

Child labor laws is a straw man argument, since child labor laws have been enacted since 1916, there is no point in arguing the issue. I will say that I am against the government mandating that children under 14 are not allowed to work in family businesses like farming or restaurants.

Ford implemented the 40 hour work week without being mandated. AS IT SHOULD BE.

If a six week vacation becomes the norm in the US, GREAT. If that is due to government mandate, then we should just go back to calling this place the British Colonies.
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Old 06-24-2016, 02:12 PM
 
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Thanks for regurgitating that. Can you think out of the box?
You have to forgive them. Probably just got finished listening to Rush Limbaugh, and that stuff just stays in their heads for weeks thereafter.
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Old 06-24-2016, 02:21 PM
 
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Actually I had employees years ago and I treated them quite well. I made a bit less money, but the satisfaction I had by knowing I treated them like family was worth it. They also worked very hard and i did not have to push them. One of them had surgery and was off for two weeks. She was a part time worker, but i kept her on the payroll even though we never discuss that issue. I also sent them to conferences and gave them extra cash so they could eat in good restaurants.

Why are you against the concept of treating employees well?
Are you against child labor laws? The 40 hour week? Weekends off?

Sometimes these things have to be mandated because not all employers are kind to the workers. And once they become the norm it is automatic. One day 6-8 weeks vacation will be the norm in America.
Hmm, hope that didn't run afoul with any IRS reporting or laws. I mean we need all of these government regulations right? Better make sure you are following them all to the letter.
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Old 06-24-2016, 02:22 PM
 
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You have to forgive them. Probably just got finished listening to Rush Limbaugh, and that stuff just stays in their heads for weeks thereafter.
Brilliant insight! I have NEVER heard anyone make that stellar observation before on this forum. Next thing you know you will be saying something about FAUX news...now that would be a hoot wouldn't it??

What a rapier wit you have. You should not be wasting your talent for insight and cutting acumen of CD forums, you need to share this shrewd intellect with all of mankind. Really, don't let us Neanderthals hold you back!
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Old 06-24-2016, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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There you go again, twisting my words. I never said I was "against the concept of treating employees well."

I said I am against government mandating how PRIVATE BUSINESSES compensate their employees.

Child labor laws is a straw man argument, since child labor laws have been enacted since 1916, there is no point in arguing the issue. I will say that I am against the government mandating that children under 14 are not allowed to work in family businesses like farming or restaurants.

Ford implemented the 40 hour work week without being mandated. AS IT SHOULD BE.

If a six week vacation becomes the norm in the US, GREAT. If that is due to government mandate, then we should just go back to calling this place the British Colonies.
Child labor laws actually are very bad for our country and working class people specifically. There is nothing wrong with children working and in many cases it's much better than the alternative. Throughout history children have worked and contributed to their improved family living standard.
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Old 06-24-2016, 03:03 PM
 
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Child labor laws actually are very bad for our country and working class people specifically. There is nothing wrong with children working and in many cases it's much better than the alternative. Throughout history children have worked and contributed to their improved family living standard.
I agree with you to an extent and that is with regard to family owned businesses. I really don't want to turn back to time when sweat shops were full of little kids working for pennies instead of attending school. OF course, if there is a total economic breakdown and it is a question of children working or starving to death, then bring on the sweat shops.
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Old 06-24-2016, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Yes, but 6 weeks vacation should be the norm for ALL. The companies you mention are basically full of millenials that desire a lot of time off and embrace the European style.

When all the millennials manage or own these companies I wunder if they will be so generous with their own money as they are with somebody else's money....
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Old 06-24-2016, 04:13 PM
 
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No because the government mandating an employer be required to pay two weeks salary to all employees and the effects that has on that employer and the financial stability of that company has absolutely nothing at all to do with my response about MY DEFINITION OF FREEDOM.

Are you really that obtuse or do you just like trolling?
No. I'm simply going by what you wrote as your definition of freedom. You might want to go back & reread what you posted.
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