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Old 09-18-2016, 06:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
You confuse the hell out of alot of people.

First, you claim cops are NOT held to the same standard as civilians, "When an officer does wrong, the system largely covers for them."

Then right after that you post, "Officer, fired, arrested and charged for assaulting hand cuffed suspect.


Now facing more jail time than the suspect."

Which is it?
What's the thread title? We are NOW starting to hold officers accountable for their actions. The protests have had a real positive effect.

We are still sweeping illegal actions by the police under the rug (see my earlier thread from this morning) but we are starting to make a difference.

 
Old 09-18-2016, 07:53 AM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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What's the thread title? We are NOW starting to hold officers accountable for their actions. The protests have had a real positive effect.

We are still sweeping illegal actions by the police under the rug (see my earlier thread from this morning) but we are starting to make a difference.
Nonsense. Police misconduct and abuse have always been held accountable. Each situation has to be handled on an individual basis. Some shootings are justified, while others are not.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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Nonsense. Police misconduct and abuse have always been held accountable. Each situation has to be handled on an individual basis. Some shootings are justified, while others are not.
I could post thousands where they were not. It was clearly shown that the officers in the Tamir Rice shooting lied. Were they held accountable? No.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 08:22 AM
 
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I could post thousands where they were not. It was clearly shown that the officers in the Tamir Rice shooting lied. Were they held accountable? No.
"I could post thousands" of articles that are probably very biased.

Did YOU sit in on each and every of the investigations and hear ALL the details of the investgation that you disapprove of the actions on?

NO!

Let's be honest, you post ONLY articles that you agree with.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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"I could post thousands" of articles that are probably very biased.

Did YOU sit in on each and every of the investigations and hear ALL the details of the investgation that you disapprove of the actions on?

NO!

Let's be honest, you post ONLY articles that you agree with.
You didn't answer my question. Not only did the officers lie, so did the prosecutor. He said that the grand jury refused to indict. They never got a chance to.

How A Prosecutor Managed To Blame A 12-Year-Old For Getting Killed By A Cop | Huffington Post

The Grand Jury in the Tamir Rice Case Did Not Take a Vote on Charges (Updated) | Scene and Heard: Scene's News Blog | Cleveland Scene

Cleveland got rid of his sorry ass at least.

Ohio prosecutor in Tamir Rice shooting case loses re-election bid | Reuters
 
Old 09-18-2016, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
You confuse the hell out of alot of people.

First, you claim cops are NOT held to the same standard as civilians, "When an officer does wrong, the system largely covers for them."

Then right after that you post, "Officer, fired, arrested and charged for assaulting hand cuffed suspect.


Now facing more jail time than the suspect."

Which is it?
The only one confused here is you. So a few examples where they are held accountable discounts all the others where they are not?
 
Old 09-18-2016, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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The protests work with liberals who cater to black criminals rather than the thousands of black people murdered by the gangs every year.
 
Old 09-21-2016, 01:40 PM
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9ce74fb1e0dc

Should the police be able to "cover their ass" for violating someones civil rights by falsifying reports and charges or should they be fired?
 
Old 09-21-2016, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, Az
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So if they go through all that process, why do we have so many in law enforcement that ignore our rights?

Answer- because they know they can get away with it since they are not held accountable.
And they also know they have people that will mindlessly support them like a lot of our posters here.
 
Old 09-21-2016, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The protests are making a difference. From the increased use of video to actual charges being brought forth in Chicago to things like this.

Baltimore police failed to share misconduct complaints with civilian oversight board; promise to do so now

Baltimore police have agreed to share complaints about officer misconduct with the Civilian Review Board, a beleaguered group created nearly two decades ago to provide citizen oversight of city law enforcement, after the department failed to forward hundreds of cases.

According to a Baltimore Sun analysis, Baltimore police did not forward to the board from 2013 to 2015 more than two-thirds of the police misconduct cases that are under its purview. The board takes complaints alleging excessive force, abusive language, harassment, false arrest and false imprisonment.

Under the agreement facilitated by City Hall last month, police will send the Civilian Review Board all citizen complaints but withhold investigative and personnel files until the board obtains a notarized copy from the complainant. The board had planned to go public with allegations that police were not following the law.


"The police were not following the law"........

Baltimore police failed to share misconduct complaints with civilian oversight board; promise to do so now - Baltimore Sun
I have NO issue with police being investigated if they have crossed the line, and with this mechanism for doing so.

One condition though-IF complaints are investigated and the complaints are found to be false, the initiator of the complaint is charged with slander, made to pay a fine payable to the officer in question and made to pay the cost of the investigation. I suspect (and would like to see stats either way) that the vast majority of the complaints are bogus.
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