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Old 09-05-2016, 06:08 PM
 
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Like I said, end the welfare state.
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Old 09-05-2016, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Labor laws should be honored, w/o needing enforcement, just as all laws should be.
You're trying to inflame and get a rise out of us, right? I mean, nobody is . . . . um . . . . 'that young of mind'. Or maybe you're an extraterrestrial life form.
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Old 09-05-2016, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Like I said, end the welfare state.
There is no "welfare state".
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Old 09-05-2016, 07:00 PM
 
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There is no "welfare state".
What country do you reside in?
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Old 09-05-2016, 07:58 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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You don't seriously think that the contractors that employ illegal roofers are passing the savings on to their customers instead of pocketing the difference?

If you buy that argument, I'd like to talk to you about a bridge I can sell you....CHEAP!
Are all roofers in collusion? Otherwise they compete with each other as I can get various bids on jobs.
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Old 09-05-2016, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Are all roofers in collusion? Otherwise they compete with each other as I can get various bids on jobs.

Stole my thunder. The fact is American consumers benefit greatly from illegal labor. Eliminate the welfare state and the nation would greatly benefit.
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Old 09-05-2016, 08:23 PM
 
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Stole my thunder. The fact is American consumers benefit greatly from illegal labor. Eliminate the welfare state and the nation would greatly benefit.
Maybe but what about the American worker and tax payer? Not everything is strictly economics. Some things are political, social and cultural. I'd argue illegals and immigration negatively impact there.
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Old 09-05-2016, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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When private companies start hiring illegals and get them cushy contract jobs with the Feds and the states at lower pay and benefits ONLY THEN will liberals turn on illegals.
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Old 09-05-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What country do you reside in?

Click on my name and read.
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Old 09-05-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Stole my thunder. The fact is American consumers benefit greatly from illegal labor.
My experience is pretty consistent: illegal labor doesn't know how to do the job properly. I bought a new house that was built with untrained labor, -maybe some illegal, and I just settled a lawsuit about the lousy work and water leaks. I hired landscapers to take care of my front yard and after two visits by the landscapers (popular landscaper in this county) it looked worst then before they came, so now I'm doing it.

I don't consider that a "benefit".
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