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False. The Republican Party is stronger than ever: the Republicans just took a significant voting bloc away from the Democrats: the Northern White Working Class (NWWC).
Back in the day, Richard Nixon used the Southern Strategy to expand the Republican base. He attracted the Southern White Working Class (SWWC), which was alienated by LBJ's Civil Rights legislation, to the Republican Party.
Trump used a similar strategy: he found a voting bloc that was alienated by the Democrats (the NWWC) and attracted them to the Republican fold. The NWWC has been destroyed by illegal immigration and neoliberalism, two policies that the modern Democrats fully support.
The New Deal Coalition is officially dead: the White Working Class is now Republican.
Will the Republicans actually do anything to improve the lives of the WWC? Hell no. But politics is politics.
Reagan won that too in 1980, more so in 1984, then H.W. Bush won similarly in 1988. However Reaganomics came crashing down under H.W. Bush. He raised taxes while saving those hurt from the S&L Crisis, but he had a pretty harmful recession in 1991-2, going into his re-election bid. He even had a far right challenge in Pat Buchanan. Bush lost in 1992 due to that, B. Clinton's southern Democrat policies (nowhere near "coastal liberals" are/was) and a little bit of Merit (even though he siphoned support from Clinton as much as he did Bush.)
Honestly, Democrats might need to look not at an establishment Democrat or a Massachusetts one (sorry Warren) but rather one who is more conservative and from the south. Sadly the Tea Party has taken a lot of this away whether it is Pre-ACA or post.
FYI, I truly think Bernie could have beaten Trump, but sadly he couldn't get enough wins and knockouts on Clinton at that to eliminate the Super-Delegate issue. I say this as an independent voter who would have voted JEB, Kaisch or Christie over H. Clinton or Sanders over any Republican, especially Cruz, Paul and Trump.
Trump's views on immigration are def. not liberal. Liberals want poor illegal immigrants to come here, and give them amnesty because a majority of them will end up voting Democrats.
Illegal immigration changed California from a Republican state 30 years ago to what it is today. The party wants to repeat this on a national level.
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Trump's views on immigration are def. not liberal. Liberals want poor illegal immigrants to come here, and give them amnesty because a majority of them will end up voting Democrats.
You wanted them to make a choice that helps your liberal pro-abortion candidate get elected. You are frustrated that they aren't dumb.
actually I'm quite capable of rational discourse, however when I see posters unable to engage at a middle school level of debate I tend to get aggravated when I realize that their votes count the same as mine, thus we've elected the host of the Apprentice as the leader of the free world.
actually I'm quite capable of rational discourse, however when I see posters unable to engage at a middle school level of debate I tend to get aggravated when I realize that their votes count the same as mine, thus we've elected the host of the Apprentice as the leader of the free world.
Ok. Middle school debate is you deciding you can control the terms of the debate. It doesn't work like that. Pointing out the election was a choice between two alternatives, and one of those alternatives (Hillary) was def. going to be pro-abortion, is a valid point.
Democrat party is welcomed to run a pro-life candidate but don't think any will get the nomination. If the party ran a candidate that was truly pro-life, then you would have a decent point.
Ok. Middle school debate is you deciding you can control the terms of the debate. It doesn't work like that. Pointing out the election was a choice between two alternatives, and one of those alternatives (Hillary) was def. going to be pro-abortion, is a valid point.
again, I simply posted a question/challenge to you- often done in debates btw...and you couldn't grasp/meet the challenge apparently. I simply asked for pro Trump arguments as to why a group who bases their entire world view on a moral compass diametrically to his everyday existence turned out in record numbers and all you do was mention Hillary. When I asked you to construct a case without mentioned her name, you couldn't go two sentences....that's not so much me attempting to control the terms of the debate but to ask you to put forth a level of critical thinking above something akin to "I know you are but what am I?" and you failed....
As I said, you want to control the terms of the debate. It doesn't work like that.
I love it when liberals want to decide for conservatives who they should vote for.
Again, you are obviously mad that pro-life people aren't dumb.
again you couldn't answer my simple question and then dodged it with a weak-saurace cop-out. I wouldn't exactly go around calling wedge issue voters smart...and if I was one of them I wouldn't exactly go around calling others dumb.....
ok, as I've pointed out, all you do is insult people and act like you are smarter than people because you are a liberal.
Coping out would be to let you control the terms of the debate. You obviously can't refute my point that Hillary is very pro-choice and pro-PP. Generally in elections people are voting against one candidate as much as they voting for a candidate.
I don't understand how the abortion issue is a 'wedge' issue. It is no more a wedge issue than any other political issue.
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